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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 25, 2020 11:21:24 GMT -5
A Dollar Torn Evidence of Lee Oswald being a government agent, can be considered by some personal possessions. In addition to the $13 dollars in bills he had in his wallet, he had two half portions of single dollar bills. Researchers have considered if Lee was a clandestine agent at some level he could use his half to match another. Another oddity with possibly the same purpose was a "top of a small cardboard box with “Cox’s Fort Worth” printed on top".That doesn't mean these items were in current use in any capacity as noted. It is only noteworthy as a consideration. On Nov 24 th and 25 th his items were photographed and cataloged and given to the FBI on Nov. 26 th Lee was dead. Some 455 items on 5 rolls of film belonging to the Dallas Police Dept, were never completely returned and many pictures were lost. Among the documents in the DPD files from the FBI is a report of 2 half one dollar bills found in his wallet - serial numbers are included. The half dollar bills and FBI report have since been lost. Also on a list that accompanied the 1965 preservation act is an entry for FBI Item B-19: “Top of yellow box, stamped inside “R-42, Mar. 24 ’55.” That item has disappeared as well. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Is this Seat Taken?Dallas Evangelist Jack Davis, was in the Texas Theater during the opening of the feature film "War Is Hell" Researcher John Armstrong reported Jack said, Lee came in and sat down next to him while the credits rolled. He thought that was strange in a theater practically empty. There were only about 20 people in the 900 seat house. This was also a much earlier time than given in the Warren Report. After a few moments Lee got up and moved next to another patron. Again, Oswald got up, and this time walked back to the concession stand. It gave Jack the impression this man was looking for someone. After purchasing a popcorn, Lee sat down next to a pregnant woman, after a few moments the woman got up and walked away. Lee got up, circled around the concession, came down the other side and took a 5 th seat in, near the center of the theater. Julie Postal was the ticket seller that day, she told the FBI there were 24 patrons in the theater at the time the police arrived. Dallas Police Officers Hutson and McDonald only describe 9 customers in the lower lever, three walked to the lobby before the cops came. A suspect on the balcony level when DPD rushed upstairs, but were sent away by some "manager." Mgr. John A Callahan had already left. LT Cunningham: "We were questioning a young man who was sitting on the stairs in the balcony when the manager
told us the suspect was on the first floor.” 02 07 016 Report to Chief J. E. Curry 12/03/63 E. L. CunninghamDetective John B. Toney: “There was a young man sitting near the top of the stairs and we ascertained from manager on duty
that this subject had been in the theater since about 12:05 PM.” 02 07 043 Report to Chief J. E. Curry 12/03/63 J. B. ToneyAccording to the FBI that leaves 12 unidentified patrons in the balcony. The manager high tailed it out just before the cops got there. Working was only the projectionist, the ticket seller, and concession guy, there was NO management in the balcony to vouch for anybody. The list and statements taken by Dallas Police of all the patrons in the theater has since been lost.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 25, 2020 11:21:49 GMT -5
Bakery Fakery Another odd item found on Lee when he was arrested, was a pay-stub not in his name. From American Bakeries CO., August 1960. Lee was living in Russia at the time. There was no name, but there was a social security number. When checked out, the SS number was for a James A. Jackson. Inexplicably, Jackson lived at 214 Neely St. before Lee did. The Neely St. address is significant as the location of the backyard photographs. CE 1886 is a document prepared by S. L. Malone, Secretary Treasurer of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall, where Lee worked before TSBD. Lee Oswald's SS number was: 040-54-3937, yet on this Jaggars document the last 4 digits are reversed as 3739. Jackson also had a mix up with his SS number, having been assigned 465-50-6916 it was transposed as 465-54-6916. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It Gets WeirdWhen Marguerite Oswald was on the stand Feb 12, '64, Attorney Rankin ran thru a few names and asked if she knew any of them. When he mentioned James A. Jackson, she did not know, Rankin added these names were closely associated with Jack Ruby. Lee Oswald was carrying a pay-stub connected to the owner associated with Jack Ruby from the address of the B Y photographs. Mr. RANKIN. James A. Jackson? Mrs. OSWALD. No, you know, a few of those names sound to me like they might be on the back of both of these pictures. I am not sure. Mr. RANKIN. They are supposed to be associates or friends or people that Mr. Ruby knew and associated with closely. A report from FBI Special Agent Brookheart said the sub was found 11/24/63 when they searched the residence. That contradicts the Dallas Police Inventory Report that said the stub was on his person. A very odd thing to carry. It was noted that an American Bakery Company pay stub in the name of JAMES A. JACKSON was found in the apartment located
at 214 West Neeley Street, Dallas, Texas. This apartment was occupied by LEE HARVEY OSWALD from March 2, 1963 until approximately May 1, 1963.But a thorough cleaning of the apt by the owner Waldo George in June'63 [scroll down to memo], right after Lee left, found nothing further. There is no evidence of a stub found 11/24 by the FBI. Yet it was inventoried, and documented. It has since been lost, and no longer exists. Meanwhile Jackson denied living at Neeley St. and didn't know how his pay-stub could end up with Lee Harvey Oswald. He told the FBI on Dec 21, 1963 he did not know Jack Rubenstein. Less than two months later Rankin was associating him with Ruby to Marguerite.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 25, 2020 11:22:08 GMT -5
Pass the Buck In the beginning of April, 1969, two counterfeit $10 bills were found being passed in a town called Sedalia Missouri. 5 1/2 years after 11/22, in a town 500 miles NE of Dallas, these bills happen to have the same serial number as one of Oswald's. "The bills both bear the serial number F38355215A. The front plate in No. 6 and the back plate is No. 5.
The bills are Series of 1963."On April 04, 1969, a local man passed the first phony $10 at a nearby tavern. Three days later a woman passed another to pay a parking fine. These two citizens had nothing to hide and acquired the bills in their day to day business. One at a grocery store, the other not known. The first bill was sent to the Secret Service, and when Sedalia Police sent the second, they were told 2 suspects were already in custody. When Lee Oswald was arrested on 11/22, he had 2 one dollar bills each torn in half. Part of an FBI document found in the Dallas Police files proves these portions did exist. One of these bills just happens to have the same serial number as a counterfeit $10 found 500 miles away 5+ years later. When the suspects were apprehended in Coffeyville Kansas, there was a box of these bills "strewn along the highway".Apparently they had found this package and gone on a spending spree. So what does it mean? ...connection to the assassination? ... probably not. Oswald involved in counterfeiting? ...something to consider, but this case doesn't go anywhere near that. F38355215A, the same number in a 1963 Series. Is that like winning the lottery? It's just weird, 'nuff said. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Back to '63What needs to be considered is the way the authorities handled his personal evidence and the sequence of events. From a second phony wallet found at the Tippit scene to the combining of items into one. Something extremely odd about Lee's behavior when he arrived at the Texas Theater, also earlier then the report dictates. If he is brought to the theater prior, it would be a place he can be controlled and muffled to any news. Like a bubble to the outside world, he would hear no television or radio reports of a cop being shot. Moving from patron to patron in a nearly empty theater has a strong indication he was looking for someone. It doesn't mean these bills are for that purpose, but these actions appear to be attempting to meet a contact unknown. Even odder to carry an anonymous pay-stub from 1960, tied to the Neely St. address while he lived in Russia. The FBI lied when they reported the stub was found in the apartment, while the Dallas Police inventoried it on his person. Rankin admitted in the proceedings the name attached to the stub was a close associate of Jack Ruby. Meanwhile the FBI reported 4 months earlier, James A Jackson denied living at Neely St or knowing Jack Rubenstein. So much has been buried and lost, there is no telling what any of this means in any logistical sense. What is clear is, it is not, questions were not asked, and government connections to Lee were "lost" in the hands of the FBI.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Dec 21, 2020 10:59:52 GMT -5
Tipped Off | No Vagrancy On Nov. 22, 1963, John Franklin Elrod was living in Dallas, had recently lost his job, and found himself arrested. A former cook at the local El Fenix Restaurant, he had struggled with alcoholism and was trying to dry out in a rehab home. He claimed he was picked up shortly after the assassination, about 2 1/2 miles from Dealey Plaza. The charge resulted in vagrancy. He was released Sunday 11/24. His brother remembered, " John told me that day he was in the same cell with Lee Harvey Oswald,
and that he knew Oswald didn't kill Kennedy," Lindy said in an interview in 1993. "He was very scared about something that happened.
He made a 180-degree turnaround and left me in the lurch—never came back to his job." He relocated to Tennessee and tried to get sober. In Aug. 1964, while living in Memphis, he went on a bender, considered killing his wife, and instead walked into the local Sheriff's Dept. He told the Shelby County authorities he had information regarding the murder of Lee Oswald. They called the FBI.He told the FBI, that on 11/22, he shared a cell with a man that had been arrested 11/18. He did not recall the man's name. When another man with a beat up face [Lee Oswald] was brought down the hall, his cell mate said, he had seen that man a few days before. That man was in some kind of contract, had made a $5000 motel deal with Jack Ruby, and drove away in the car he was later arrested in. The cell mate was Lawrence Miller, the passenger in the blue Thunderbird that was set up by the ATF in a stolen gun sting. But the FBI [Agt. Hosty] and Dallas Police intercepted the delivery and arrested the driver, Darrell Whitter and himself. Elrod was in the cell with the occupant that confessed, the President's assassin had been involved in a gun deal with Jack Ruby. When the FBI checked with Dallas Police in 1964, they were told there was no arrest record of a John Franklin Elrod in Dallas, 11/22. The Dallas Police later disputed that claim, stating the FBI had access to all the Dallas Police files when necessary. Nonetheless, in 1992, when the DPD files were searched and archived, the arrest record of John Franklin Elrod was discovered. "This man was arrested on railroad tracks a few minutes after radio call was dispatched that man was walking along
railroad carrying a rifle. This man was not carrying rifle at the time of arrest. This suspect is unemployed,
states he has been in Dallas for two weeks. Lost job last week at El Fenix. States he has been arrested for theft and DWI.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Dec 21, 2020 11:00:21 GMT -5
A Blue Thunder Bird John Elrod was held in custody at the Dallas City Jail, from Fri. 11/22 until Sun. 11/24. He had been picked up on the charge of vagrancy near the RR tracks, shortly after the assassination. While in custody he shared a cell with Lawrence Miller. Miller had been arrested for stolen guns. He told Elrod, Lee Oswald was the man he had seen a few nights before in the setup at a local motel. Questions arose about DPD allowing the President's assassin to share a cell with any other prisoners. From the time Oswald was in custody it was a series of interrogations, line ups, interrogations and line ups. There was a midnight appearance before a Judge a press conference, and more interrogations. John Elrod was in custody at the same time Lee Oswald was in the same building, in the same cell block. He didn't remember the cell setup of letters and numbers when asked, but he did know of a cell mate Daniel Douglas. Lee signed out he was in cell F2, when used the telephone, Douglas was also in an F cell. Close enough for Elrod to know some things. John later and accurately described this other man as, "a kid from Tennessee, who had stolen a car in Memphis." He never claimed to share a cell with Lee the entire time he was there, nor did he give any indication of how long he did. It would only take a few moments to tell a story during a break, or a meal, or a transfer in the 44+ hours Lee was held. The Dallas Police said no one shared a cell with Oswald, but that doesn't mean no prisoner spoke to, or heard what he said. John Elrod was close enough to describe Daniel Douglas. Oswald and Douglas were on the same floor "F" of jail cells. In August 1994, The Washington Post printed a story by long time researchers Ray and Mary La Fontaine The Fourth Tramp: Oswald's Lost Cellmate and the Gunrunners of Dallas, is a detailed explanation of this matter. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Fourth Tramp: Oswald's Lost Cellmate and the Gunrunners of DallasRay and Mary La Fontaine | Washington Post Aug. 1994"...If Elrod's story is true—and many of its details have been confirmed, the accused
presidential assassin knew about the inner working of a gunrunning network that was under investigation by
federal agents in Dallas in the fall 1963. These gunrunners trafficked in weapons stolen from U.S. government
arsenals, And, according to recently released FBI documents, two of them were suspected of supplying guns to anti-Castro
groups that were planning to mount an invasion of Cuba in the last week of November 1963.
The Elrod story indicates that Oswald was privy to one of their gun deals and willing to talk about it the day he was arrested.
Elrod's account is not recent. He first told it to family members in the days after the Deatey Plaza tragedy and repeated it to the
FBI 30 years ago this month in August 1964..."
"The more basic question is: Would the Dallas police really have put the accused assassin in a cell where
he could talk with another prisoner. The answer, it turns out, is yes. A few hours after his arrest,
Oswald was allowed to make a phone call. On the log of prisoner telephone calls.
Oswald signed his name and wrote down his cell number, which was 'F-2." Elrod's name does not appear on the phone log;
he says that he was not allowed to make a phone call. The only other prisoner listed in the log in an F cell on
Nov. 22. 1963 between 3 p.m. and midnight was a "Daniel Douglas" whose scrawl indicates he was held in F-I or F-4...."
Elrod knew who the other man in Oswald's cell block was. This is a powerful point supporting his story.
In an interview in July, 1993, Elrod accurately described the other man in Oswald's cell as a
"kid from Tennessee who had stolen a car in Memphis." Among the Dallas Police Department arrest reports for Nov. 22, 1963
that surfaced in 1992 was one for a "Daniel Wayne Douglas" who was described as 19 years old, from Memphis and a confessed car thief.
Douglas's current whereabouts are not known.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Dec 21, 2020 11:00:49 GMT -5
Missed the Boat Back in Washington, May '64, Commission Attorneys, Burt Griffin and Leon Hubert are struggling with aspects of the report. One part in particular was a connection between Jack Ruby and various gun running operations involving Cuba. Dallas Reporter Seth Kantor, many years later testified, Ruby was an FBI informant, a PCI, a potential criminal informer. Earlier in May '64 some members met with FBI Assistant to the Director, Alan Belmont. He brought the Lee Oswald FBI file. The Commission refused to accept this important information, instead asked that it be made available if needed. There is no indication Griffin or Hubert were aware of the accessibility that was redeemed two weeks before their own concerns. If FBI informant connections exist between Jack Ruby and Lee Oswald it would be expected there, even at arm's length. If the lawyers were not told, the file was suppressed to individual staff members, if the two were told, that intent to suppress is clear. As John Elrod noted to the FBI in Aug '64, Jack Ruby was involved in some kind of gun running in Dallas in the Fall of '63. It was never pursued to track down the cell mate and find out exactly what he said. The FBI dismissed it was hear say. At that time Elrod's arrest records were missing and they never made any mention of Hosty or the gun sting, or the cell mate. If Lee had any involvement with information passed to the FBI regarding this matter it should have been in the Belmont file. Any connection to Jack Ruby as a "Potential Criminal Informant" involving Lee would also appear in the file the Commission refused. Mr. BELMONT - The file contains the identity of some of our informants in subversive movements.
It contains information as to some of the investigative techniques whereby we were able to receive some of the information
which has been made available to the Commission."About two weeks after the Belmont file was declined by a limited number of members, Attorneys Griffin and Hubert wrote a memo to lead Attorney Rankin, in which they expressed their concerns over investigative leads regarding Jack Ruby. "Adequacy of the Ruby Investigation", [scroll to page 289] addresses where the Commission was with Jack Ruby's involvement in the case. As late as May '64 the investigation was questioning whether or not to pursue unresolved connections to The Minutemen, a radical right wing organization, and gun running to Cuba. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Adequacy of the Ruby Investigation | May 14, 1964"We believe that a reasonable possibility exists that Ruby has maintained a close interest in
Cuban affairs to the extent necessary to participate in gun sales or smuggling....
We have previously suggested the theory that Ruby and Mrs. [Bertha] Cheek could have been involved in Cuban
arms sales of which Oswald gained knowledge through his efforts to infiltrate the anti-Castro Cubans....
We have suggested that Ruby might have killed Oswald out of fear that Oswald might implicate Ruby and his friends
falsely or not in an effort to save his own life. We think that neither Oswald's Cuban interests in Dallas nor Ruby's
Cuban activities have been adequately explored.... In short, we believe that the possibility exists, based on
evidence already available, that Ruby was involved in illegal dealings with Cuban elements who might have had contact with Oswald."May 1964, some members suspected a connection between Ruby and Owsald, and further suggested that it be pursued. It was not. In 1978, Sen Chris Dodd (HSCA), asked the then, Judge Griffin, why? He said, he and Hubert decided to only pursue what they already had. Time was running out and they had to submit copy of their portion to the staff for edit and review. Further inquiry was dropped. The finished report was released Sept 19, 1964, it is unlikely even John Elrod would have forced a delay or set it back an additional month. But the staff was consistent in lacking pursuit regarding Jack Ruby in this case. From avoiding taking him to Washington, to his own testimony of his whereabouts. The Commission takes these weak self serving statements from the word of a madman, while compiling unconfirmed accounts, even affidavits, that contradict the report as an accurate narrative of events. Notice the wording above, "..Oswald gained knowledge through his efforts to infiltrate.."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 4, 2021 11:26:40 GMT -5
The Walker News According to the Warren Report, the Walker incident remained unresolved until Dec. 3 rd when Marina told the story. It was accepted without question, while specific details from witnesses at the scene conflicted with the tale she told. She said whatever she learned about the shooting, she got from Lee, she did not see or hear any newspaper or media accounts. Meanwhile 4 days earlier, an article, "The Strange Case of Oswald" appeared in a German newspaper "Deutsche National Zeitung". When Liebeler had Walker on the stand he was very interested in the source of the identity as early as the morning of Nov. 23 rd. He makes no mention of Oswald in custody the night of the shooting or the higher authority dropping the investigation. "The murderer of Kennedy made an attempt on US General Walker's life early in the summer when General Walker was sitting in his study.
The bullet missed Walker's head only by inches. Oswald was seized, but the following investigation as it was reported to us was stopped by
Attorney General, Robert Kennedy. In the case that Oswald would have been imprisoned for many years and so he would not
have been able to commit the murder of John F Kennedy, the brother of Robert Kennedy."+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Edwin Walker | WC TestimonyMr. LIEBELER. In fact, I suggest that you have seen the November 29, 1963, copy of that newspaper which had on its front page a story entitled in German "The Strange Case of Oswald", that told about how Oswald had allegedly attacked you. General WALKER. November 29, that is correct. Mr. LIEBELER. Now, where did that newspaper get that information, do you know? General WALKER. I do not. There was all article in the paper that he probably got from me. Mr. LIEBELER. Well, in fact, the issue of that newspaper has right on the front page what purports to be a transcript of a telephone conversation between you and some other person. General WALKER. Thorsten? Mr. LIEBELER. Yes. Hasso Thorsten, is that the man? General WALKER. He called me in Shreveport. Mr. LIEBELER. When were you in Shreveport? General WALKER. He called me the morning of November 23, 1963, about 7 a.m. Mr. LIEBELER. That is when you gave him this information about Oswald having attacked you? General WALKER. I didn't give him all the information--I think the portion you are referring to, I didn't give him, because I had no way of knowing that Oswald attacked me. I still don't. And I am not very prone to say in fact he did. In fact, I have always claimed he did not, until we can get into the case or somebody tells us differently that he did. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Drop the DimeWhen the FBI equivalent in Germany the "BFV", contacted the editor, they learned Hasso Thortson was an alias for Helmut Munch. Munch told the FBI, Gen Walker said, that he had heard, Lee Oswald was the shooter seven months earlier. He also told the reporter that a Dallas Police Lieutenant had told him Oswald was arrested that night, then released to a higher authority. Walker confirmed that in a 1975 letter to Frank Church, and the Senate Committee investigating the power abuse of Intelligence Agencies. "...Within days I was informed by a Lieutenant on the Dallas City Police Force,
that Oswald was in custody by 12 pm. that night for questioning. He was released on higher authority than that in Dallas."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 4, 2021 11:27:05 GMT -5
Any Connection Yet?On Saturday 11/23, during a press conference with Police Chief Jesse Curry discussing the rifle, an unknown voice interjected, " "Is there any connection yet between this and the firing at Major General Walker?The use of the word "yet" seeming to provoke a further look into a 7 month old shooting, otherwise completely unrelated. While on the road, in Shreveport LA, returning from one of his rallies Gen Walker received a call from a friend and German newspaper reporter, Hasso Thorsten. No doubt the call was about reactions to the days events and the apprehension. During which Walker revealed Oswald was a suspect in the shooting at his home 7 months earlier, he was apprehended that night, then released to a higher authority. That story was printed in a German newspaper called Deutsche National Zeitung. In 1975 he said it was a Dallas Police Lieutenant that told him about the release, but does not name the man. If Oswald was arrested and released by a higher authority the night of the Walker shooting, then there may be an intelligence connection between Lee and the authorities in the capacity of an informant. The identity of the "T-number" informants in Dallas is essential. Early hints to the press and media of Oswald's involvement in the shooting continued on 11/24 with Ruth Paine to The Houston Post. According to the official record the Walker shooting remained a mystery until Marina spoke up in December '63. These instances of obvious intent become suspicious being so immediately hinted out of the blue by certain individuals. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Houston Post | Nov. 24, 1963 Rifle was Stored in The Garage at Irving by Jim Criswell excerpt.. [Ruth] Paine said: If he killed the President that was a fanatical act...
But before that I would not have called him a fanatic. But if it was a rational act I would have thought he
would've shot at Gen. Edwin A Walker or something like that."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 4, 2021 11:27:28 GMT -5
Revill Rounders In the Dallas Police there was Lieutenant Jack Revill, Criminal Intelligence Section of the Special Service Bureau. His job was to keep an eye on, "possible subversive or extremist groups and try to know something about their plans, their movements."He had known FBI Agent Hosty just about 5 years, and would have direct contacts with subversives reporting to informants within the FBI. Hosty said he never met Oswald, yet his name, work address, and license plate are in Lee's address book. The FBI file on Lee Oswald brought to the Commission then refused into the record could absolutely shed light on this matter. MR. BELMONT - The file contains the identity of some of our informants in subversive movements.
It contains information as to some of the investigative techniques whereby we were able to receive some of the
information which has been made available to the Commission. Hosty told the Commission the Walker shooting was under the jurisdiction of the DPD. But there is something missing between the DPD Intelligence and the FBI. Chief Curry put Revill monitoring the activity of these groups, while Hosty said many years later he did. The two men knew each other well, and must have worked closely on such cases. In April Oswald moved to New Orleans and Hosty said he couldn't find Lee, meanwhile somehow Walker knew the name. It is inconceivable Revill would not know the name Oswald if Hosty was assigned to monitor his activity in these groups. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jesse Curry | WC TestimonyMr. RANKIN - I will hand you Exhibit 709 which you have furnished us this morning, and ask you, can you tell us how you got that exhibit? Mr. CURRY - This exhibit was a report that was submitted to me from Jack Revill, who is a lieutenant, in the criminal intelligence section. Mr. RANKIN - That is the same man who is referred to in Exhibit 710? Mr. CURRY - Yes, it is; their assignment is to keep track of these groups that we have talked about, possible subversive or extremist groups and try to know something about their plans, their movements. "...In essence, this report says prior to the announcement of the President's visit, there were rumors he would visit Dallas and because of these rumors the intelligence section increased its efforts in attempting to get data concerning not only extremists and subversive groups." Mr. RANKIN - How do they do that? Mr. CURRY - They usually have an informant inside the organization. Sometimes it may be one of our own men. Mr. RANKIN - I see. That was with regard to the persons listed on that Exhibit 710? Mr. CURRY - Yes. Mr. RANKIN - Do you know of any other efforts besides that? Mr. CURRY - No, sir; these are all that I know of except we did in one instance go to the cities outside of Dallas, towns outside of Dallas to talk to some people that had rumored that they would do something to embarrass the President. These organizations are listed as the Ku Klux Klan, the Indignant White Citizens Council, National States Rights Party, the John Birch Society, Dallas White Citizens Council, Oak Cliff White Citizens Council, General Walker group, American Opinion Forum, Dallas Committee for Full Citizenship, Young Peoples Socialist League, Dallas Civil Liberties Union, Texas White Citizens Council, and Black Muslims.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 4, 2021 11:27:49 GMT -5
Hosty Onus Lieutenant Jack Revill knew FBI James Hosty since he had taken over in Criminal Intelligence Section at the Dallas Police. They would have worked very close together on a number of cases involving right wing groups, and subversives. Hosty and Dallas Police hijacked the gun running sting set up by ATF agent John Ellsworth on 11/18/63. This was a Minutemen operation involving the drop off of automatic weapons 4 days before the presidents arrival. In 2003, Hosty told told Don Moore, Senior Writer for the Charlotte Sun daily newspaper, Port Charlotte, Fla. “I was a special agent and the majority of my cases at the Dallas office were domestic intelligence,
“Klansmen and Gen. Edwin Walker and his Minutemen. I had to keep an eye on the general and his crew.”
United Nations Ambassador Adlai Stevenson came to Dallas to make a speech a couple of weeks before Kennedy was shot.
Stevenson was jeered and heckled by a group of Minutemen called the “Indignant White Citizens Council,”
known in earlier days as the Ku Klux Klan. Hosty made it sound like the group is in different facets and names, but all with the same cause. When Walker was on the stand he told Liebeler he too only knew of the "Minutemen" in general terms. An FBI Memo on the group indicates a connection between Walker and the groups organizational leaders Hosty was the special agent in charge to keep an eye on General Walker. Lt Revill was in the Intelligence Div at Dallas Police working closely with him on extremists. It is difficult to correlate the statements of these men relating to knowledge of Oswald's capability. When Revill was on the stand he told a story that Hosty had told him, that a communist had killed the president. and the FBI knew this man was capable of the killing. Hosty unequivocally denied ever having made the statement. But a memo from Revill dated 11/22 indicates Hosty was lying, while Revill told the Commission he had not heard of Oswald. Meanwhile, General Walker was aware of Lee that night in April and told the Church Commitee a Lieutenant at DPD released him early. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ James Hosty | WC TestimonyMr. STERN. Did you say that? Mr. HOSTY. "No, sir. I want to state for the record at this time that I unequivocally deny ever having made the statement to Lieutenant Revill or to anyone else that, "We knew Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of assassinating the
President of the United States, we didn't dream he would do it." I also want to state at this time that I made no statement to Lieutenant Revill or to any other individual at any time that I or anyone else in the FBI knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of assassinating the President of the United States or possessed any potential for violence. Prior to the assassination of the President of the United States, I had no information indicating violence on the part of Lee Harvey Oswald. I wish the record to so read." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jack Revill | WC Testimony"And Mr. Hosty ran over to me and he says, "Jack"-now as I recall these words-"a Communist killed President Kennedy." I said, "What?" He said, "Lee Oswald killed President Kennedy." I said, "Who is Lee Oswald?" He said, "He is in our Communist file. We knew he was here in Dallas." At that time Hosty and I started walking off, and Brian, as well as I recall, sort of stayed back, and as we got onto the elevator or just prior to getting on the elevator Mr. Hosty related that they had information that this man was capable of this, and at this I blew up at him, and I said, "Jim"---- Mr. RANKIN. What did he say in regard to his being capable? Mr. REVILL. This was it. They had--"We had information that this man was capable"---- Mr. RANKIN. Of what? Mr. REVILL. Of committing this assassination. This is what I understood him to say. Mr. RANKIN. Are those his exact words? Mr. REVILL. As well as I recall. Give him the benefit of the doubt; I might have misunderstood him. But I don't believe I did, because the part about him being in Dallas, and the fact that he was a suspected Communist, I understand by the rules of the Attorney General they cannot tell us this, but the information about him being capable, I felt that we had taken a part in the security measures for Mr. Kennedy, and if such, if such information was available to another law enforcement agency, I felt they should have made it known to all of us, and I asked Hosty where he was going at that time. By this time we were on the elevator and he said he was going up to homicide and robbery to tell Captain Fritz the same thing. I said, "Do you know Captain Fritz?" and he said he had never met him. I said, "All right, I will take you up and introduce you to Captain Fritz." So Detective Brian and I and Hosty went to the third floor of the city hall and went to Captain Fritz' office, the homicide and robbery bureau. We didn't see Captain Fritz, he may or may not have been there. His office door was closed. Mr. DULLES. What time of the day, could you give me the approximate time? Mr. REVILL. Between 2:30 and 3 o'clock, and I have the reason for saying this because of the typing of this report here. Our secretary got off at 4 o'clock.
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