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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 30, 2020 12:38:53 GMT -5
Have Your Ticket Ready Jack Ruby was seen at Parkland Hospital between 1:20p and 1:30p. Lee Oswald was arrested at about 1:50p. Parkland Hospital is about 6 miles to the Texas Theater, and Google maps puts the fastest route at about 12 mins. George Applin was in the theater that afternoon, he told the Commission about another man he warned about the gun. When Joseph Ball asked about reporting this to the police officer, Applin volunteered he had mentioned it to the FBI. The attorney immediately ended the session, meanwhile a check of documents shows nothing on the FBI report, Dec 16 th '63. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ George Applin | WC Testimony Mr. BALL - Okay, fine, that is all, Mr. Applin. Mr. APPLIN - But, there is one thing puzzling me. Mr. BALL - What is that? Mr. APPLIN - And I don't even know if it has any bearing on the case, but there was one guy sitting in the back row right there where I was standing at, and I said to him, I said, "Buddy, you'd better move. There is a gun." And he says--just sat there. He was just back like this. Just like this. Just watching. Mr. BALL - Just watching the show? Mr. APPLIN - No; I don't think he could have seen the show. Just sitting just like this, just looking at me. Mr. BALL - Did you know the man? Mr. APPLIN - No; I didn't. Mr. BALL - Ever seen him since? Mr. APPLIN - No, sir; didn't. I tapped him on the shoulder and said, "Buddy, you'd better move," and---- Mr. BALL - Were you scared? Mr. APPLIN - Well, when I seen the gun I was. Mr. BALL - Did you tell the police officer about this man? Mr. APPLIN - No, sir; at the time, I didn't think about it, but I did tell-- I didn't even think about it when I went before the Secret Service man, but I did tell one of the FBI men about it. Mr. BALL - Okay. I guess that is all, Mr. Applin. Thank you very much. Mr. APPLIN - All right.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 30, 2020 12:39:23 GMT -5
Dallas Morning News | March 11, 1979 George Applin arrived at the Texas Theater early, he had just heard on the radio, the President had been shot. He went in to the movie house at about 12:45p. Attorney Joseph Ball never asked him about Oswald's movements before the cops arrived. Once Applin saw the officers with weapons drawn, he moved to the back of the theater and stood at the wall between the seats and concession area. While there, he saw a man that he warned about the gun he had seen. The man did not answer him, nor did he move. Fifteen years later, he told the story to Dallas Morning News reporter, Earl Golz. He said the man he spoke to was Jack Ruby. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MAN BELIEVES HE SAW RUBY AT SCENE OF OSWALD'S ARREST"For 15 years. George J. Applin Jr. has remained silent about an experience that could have changed the outcome of the investigation of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Applin was one of only two Texas Theatre patrons whom the Warren Commission could locate to testify about the arrest of accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. When authorities questioned Applin, he testified to details about Oswald's arrest in the theater slightly more than an hour after the assassination. What be didn’t tell them, however, was that he recognized Jack Ruby as one of about four main-floor patrons not identified by the Warren Commission. "...at the time the Warren Commission had me down there at the post office in Dallas to get my statement.
I was afraid to give it (the Ruby information)," Applin said. "I gave everything up to the point of what I gave the police." Applin said he spoke to a man sitting in a back-row seat — a man he believes was Ruby — as police were about to pounce on Oswald. "Ruby was sitting down, just watching them." "And when Oswald pulled the gun and snapped it at his (a policeman's) head and missed and the darn thing wouldn't fire,
that's when 1 tapped him (Ruby) on the shoulder and told him he had better move because those guns were waving around."
"He just turned around and looked at me. Then he turned around and started watching them." When police questioned Applin later that day. he couldn't have told them he saw Ruby because he didn't know him by sight. Two days later, after Ruby shot Oswald, his face became known to Applin and the rest of the world. Four months later, Applin was to recall the Ruby incident under questioning by Warren Commission attorney Joseph A. Ball, but he still declined to identify the man as Ruby. Ball asked Applin if he knew the man or had seen him since. Applin answered no twice, and the tesnmony was concluded. "I'm a pretty nervous guy anyway", Applin said in an interview, " because I'll tell you what:
After I saw that magazine where all those people they said were kind of connected with some of this had come up dead,
it just kind of made me keep a low profile."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 30, 2020 12:39:47 GMT -5
Time is Tight The Warren Commission took Ruby's account of his own actions at face value without further confirmation or dispute. There are several conflicting reports from Jack's associates on timing and actions ignored by the report. The HSCA was able to clarify a few, one was that Ruby did NOT come down the Main St. ramp on Sunday 11/24 to shoot Lee. Having assistance from the DPD, is one of the undisputed conclusions from that committee proving conspiracy in this case. Another clarification was Seth Kantor seeing Jack Ruby at Parkland Hospital at around 1:30p. Ruby denied it. Yet the Commission members took the word of the accused madman over two confirming witnesses brought before them. Kantor also said Jack had a bug for the news, always chasing a story in the newsroom with one ear to the police scanner. It is not implausible if Ruby was at Parkland at that time, he heard that a cop was shot, and the suspect was seen in Oak Cliff. A cop nearby could've given him a quick ride to the theater. Or a police scanner could head him off in that location. Time was tight, but still very possible. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Earl Golz | Dallas Morning News"Kantor's story, retold last year in a book he wrote about Ruby, apparently has been accepted as fact by the
House Assassinations Committee. If so. it doesn't rule out Applin's sighting of Ruby at the Texas Theater
shortly before 1:50 p.m. The News timed the 6.2 mile trip through heavy traffic from the hospital to the theater, using
Interstate 35-E and staying within the speed limit. None of the test runs took more than 12 minutes.
This would have permitted Ruby to travel from the hospital at about 1:30p to the theater at about 1:45p without speeding.
The 3.2-mile trip from the Texas Theater, at 231 W. Jefferson, to the former site of the Carousel Club, at 1312 Commerce,
took from 9 to 14 minutes at an average speed of 30 mph. This would have given Ruby time to drive from the theater to his club
in time to call his sister in Chicago at 2:05 p.m."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Feb 13, 2021 11:35:00 GMT -5
Midnight Press Conference Lee Oswald was held in custody nearly 44 hours without an attorney of his choice. His first choice of council, John Abt, told the world on the morning of 11/23, he could not handle the case. By five o'clock Sat. afternoon a Public Defender had been dismissed, but Lee was still hopeful for Abt. Nobody had told him. Several hours later a Dallas Rep from the ACLU, Oswald's second choice, was sent away without his knowledge. Lee protested several times, he was not allowed legal representation, taxi witnesses William Scoggins and William Whaley both heard it. Officers testified to complaints of being denied council or being held incommunicado, it prompted the ACLU to visit him. They were told Lee had decided on council. At around midnight the night before, the Dallas Police bought Oswald out for a "press conference". The Warren Report describes the mayhem brought on by the Dallas Police with the responsibility to keep their prisoner safe. It was in their "house". yet nowhere in the chapter on Oswald's Detention does it mention the words "kill", or "murder" or even "police." The press were to blame, and even though they acted just as expected on the hottest story in the country, the Dallas Police were absolved of any wrongdoing except for some minor procedure discrepancies for which the report never specifically clarifies. Jack Ruby was allowed in, armed and ready to act, later questions of being unarmed, were meant to cover up any indication of premeditation. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Last Words of Lee Harvey Oswald | Compiled by Mae Brussell When asked about the earlier arraignment, Oswald said "Well, I was questioned by Judge Johnston. However, I protested at that time that I was not allowed legal representation during that very short and sweet hearing. I really don't know what the situation is about. Nobody has told me anything except that I am accused of murdering a policeman." "I know nothing more than that, and I do request someone to come forward to give me legal assistance." When asked, "Did you kill the President?" Oswald replied, "No. I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet." "The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question. . . . When newsmen asked Oswald about his black eye, he answered, "A policeman hit me."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Feb 13, 2021 11:35:28 GMT -5
Shoot the Questions Jack Ruby appears to be stalking Lee Oswald since Fri. night. He hung around the station all weekend. Talk around the building, of Lee being denied an attorney or being beaten or mistreated prompted the Dallas Police to display the prisoner in a public forum. It was extremely unusual. But Lee didn't take the intent of any fame or notoriety, he didn't say, "yea, I shot the son of a bitch". He denied it. Once again he was clear in his being refused an attorney, as the officer tugged him away from the microphone when he repeated it. His voice was shaking and cracked at one point, he was all alone and he knew it. He was scared. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Warren Report | Page 208"Oswald's most prolonged exposure occurred at the midnight press conference on Friday night.
In response to demands of newsmen, District Attorney Wade, after consulting with Chief Curry and Captain Fritz,
had announced shortly before midnight that Oswald would appear at a press conference in the basement assembly room.
Curry had instructed the reporters that they were not to "ask any questions and try to interview ... [Oswald] in any way,"
but when he was brought into the room, immediately they began to shoot questions at him and shove microphones into his face."
It was difficult to hear Oswald's answers above the uproar. Cameramen stood on the tables to take pictures and others pushed
forward to get close-ups. (See Commission Exhibit No. 2965, p. 207.)
The noise and confusion mounted as reporters shouted at each other to get out of the way and cameramen made frantic efforts
to get into position for pictures. After Oswald had been in the room only a few minutes, Chief Curry intervened and directed
that Oswald be taken back to the jail because, he testified, the newsmen "tried to overrun him." -------------------------------------------------------------- The Report is clear, there was no required identification to be in the room. It was so crowded, Capt. Fritz could not get in. Lee was displayed like a circus animal, no attempt to interview or ask questions was allowed. It was mayhem. Almost immediately Lee was removed from the room and District Attorney Henry Wade answered some questions. Wade was asked about Lee's connections to any communist organizations. Jack Ruby corrected him with "Fair Play for Cuba" Ruby had connections to gun running, Cuba, and was probably an FBI informant, as uncovered by newspaper reporter Seth Kantor. Meanwhile, by midnight Fri., the rifle was taken to Washington by FBI agents Vincent Drain and Warren deBrueys. deBrueys was the special FBI agent from New Orleans that knew about Lee's involvement with anti Castro groups in that city. That was reported from the New Orleans office to the Dallas Office of the FBI. Ruby may have learned this thru his FBI connections.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Feb 13, 2021 11:35:49 GMT -5
Fair Play Movement The midnight press conference was set up in the basement assembly room at Dallas Police. Chief Curry and Capt Fritz had announced it to about 70-100 people that been in the station since the afternoon. It was a mad house through out the entire day, the hallways were clogged up with press, and the public, authorized or not. Jack Ruby was part of the jammed packed chaos of primarily reporters trying to get the latest on this unbelievable event. Curry instructed newsmen not to ask questions or try to interview the suspect, but Oswald was immediately shouted at simultaneously. Once again Lee repeated he had not been allowed legal council, his voice cracked when he revealed, "newspaper reporters in the hall" were the first he heard of being charged with killing the president. He looks and sounds, scared. Soon the press had over run the situation, and Oswald was removed from the room almost as fast as he entered. Once gone, District Attorney Henry Wade answered some questions. "Was he part of any communist organization?", to which Wade answered, "Free Cuba Movement”, while a voice from the back corrected him. "Fair Play for Cuba". That voice was Jack Ruby, he told the Commission he corrected Wade because he had heard it on Radio KLIF. There is no confirmation that news was reported publicly this early in the investigation. Ruby told the FBI he was packing, then later testified he was not. The Commission decided to chose what they wanted to believe. Jack was known to carry a weapon and often times carried cash and receipts both in and out of the club. There were many on the police force that knew Ruby, so it was not unusual for him to be there. Odd though, is the way the investigation took the word of this madman, while at the same time, denied his request to testify in Washington (8x) where he felt safe to talk. Mr. RUBY. How can I prove my authenticity of what I have stated here today?
Chief Justice WARREN. Well, you have testified under oath, and I don't even know that there is anything to disprove what you have said.
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