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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 11, 2019 10:18:38 GMT -5
Seth Kantor | “The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald” (1986)London Weekend Television SpecialIn the 1986 'Trial Of Lee Harvey Oswald", Seth Kantor was a witness for the defense. He said he came into Dallas that day on the President's press plane. He was in the motorcade, and was one of the first to arrive at Parkland. after the assassination. Spence asks about pubic areas and access to the car as well as the stretcher. Kantor is more definite on the public accessibility to the car, but would not commit the same to the stretcher. Seth was on his way to the press conference that announced the president's death, that was just before 1:30p Fri 11/22. Once again he is consistent in his statements, compared to years past and is sure it was Jack Ruby he saw that afternoon. He is sure because, he calls Ruby "one of those characters", he had known for awhile. He was in the garage when Oswald was shot, and afterwards opened his own investigation into Jack Ruby. He sued the government thru the Freedom of Information Act and got Ruby's phone records. SPENCE: What did those records reveal in that regard? SETH KANTOR: That Jack Ruby had been a, what the FBI called a, a PCI, a potential criminal informer. From there he was able to ascertain, phone calls from Ruby to various mob figures that spiked just prior to the assassination. He was also in the hall and heard Lee shout, "I'm just a Patsy", and wrote that in his notebook.This PCI thing is very interesting to me. Because, when Billy Lovelady of TSBD, is in trouble with the FBI for gun running in Jan 1963, Could he be part of this program as well, and if BNL is, is he the eyes of the FBI in the 6 weeks Lee works at TSBD?? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Cross ExaminationWatch Bugliosi's style when he can't crack a witness. It becomes rapid fire, with little or no ability for the witness to elaborate. He shoves a question full of overstated conclusions into the record, and gets the witness nod yes. When Bugs tries to say the phones calls were people Ruby had contact with for many years, Kantor immediately corrects him. Bugliosi dismisses his answer. VB then barks about the HSCAs conclusions that the calls were labor disputes, again, Kantor disagrees, On Ruby's repeated requests to go to Washington. Bugs tries to corner him with an " are you implying to the members to this jury..." Kantor responds.... I hope that I am implying, Jack Ruby had more information to reveal. Bugs: He had to have been talking about something other than conspiracy. Kantor: Ruby's former attorney suspected the room was bugged. Bugliosi gains nothing with this witness.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Re Direct | Ruby coverup When Spence gets to re direct, he talks about something suspected for years, DPD allowing Jack Ruby into the basement 11/24. Kantor was convinced thru his research that someone from the DPD had let Ruby in, and added, some outside forces have been controlling him. It took a whole lot longer for Seth Kantor to get into that garage that morning then it did Jack Ruby.. I would add, this is a first hand account from a veteran reporter, that knew what it was like to move around the scene that weekend. One more thing, I remember reading [I'll look for the source] Bugliosi bought the rights to this program. He owned it, all the production outtakes of it, as well as the lack of released transcripts.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Sept 27, 2020 10:09:15 GMT -5
Ruby and the NewsJFK was assassinated at 12:30p on Friday, Nov. 22, 1963. Jack Ruby said he was in the offices of the Dallas Morning News, placing weekend ads for his nightclubs. That building was about 5 blocks from TSBD. He gave a variety of times for his arrival. The Commission took Ruby's explanation from statements he had made to FBI Agents Hall and Clements. They took no contradictory evidence. The rambling word of a madman was enough for where he was at a certain time, and at Parkland Hospital later that afternoon. The investigation never did challenge Ruby on these points. Instead it went on the record with a dispute from FBI statements vs. Commission testimony in the time he arrived. This was close to the time, Julia Ann Mercer saw a man she swore was Jack Ruby on the other side of the overpass. That man was parked in a truck just beyond the bridge, while the passenger unloaded a long package up the slope. If Ruby was at the Dallas Morning News, sometime before 11:30a there was still plenty of time to get there. There is evidence of Jack being in the office both before and after, but no proof he was there at 12;30p. The witnesses presented in the report are; 2 unnamed newspaper employees, plus Tony Zoppi, and Don Campbell, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Alibifrom the report:"Jack Ruby learned of the shooting of President while in the second-floor advertising office of the Dallas Morning News, five blocks from the Texas School Book Depository, where he had come Friday morning to place regular weekend advertising for his two nightclubs. On arriving at the building at about 11:00 or 11:30 a.m., he talked briefly with two newspaper employees concerning some diet pills he had recommended to them. Ruby then went to the office of Morning News columnist, Tony Zoppi, where he states he obtained a brochure on his new master of ceremonies that he wanted to use in preparing copy for his advertisements. Proceeding to the advertising department, he spoke with advertising employee Don Campbell from about noon until 12:25 p.m. when Campbell left the office." testimony:MR RUBY: "...I believe I got downtown there at 10:30 or 11 o'clock that morning. ..."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Sept 27, 2020 10:11:45 GMT -5
The WitnessesMost of Ruby's statement regarding this matter come from page 3 of an FBI Memo dated Dec 25, 1963. His interview with agents Hall and Clements was taken almost word for word as how the report reads. It is not the first time Ruby's statements went unchallenged, none of these witnesses were called to answer or confirm his timing. First, upon arrival, the report claims he spoke to 2 unnamed employees. In his FBI statement he identifies them as, Gladys Craddock and a girl named Connell or Connelly. He next went to visit Tony Zoppi, but Zoppi wasn't there; "He believes he stopped for a moment and talked to two girls employed there, Gladys Craddock and a girl named Connelly or Connell. He thinks he gave them a bottle of Larson's CRD, a food supplement for persons on a diet. He then went to the office of Tony Zoppi, but Tony was not there."The FBI interviewed Craddock on Nov 27, 1963, Craddock confirm Ruby was at the office on 11/22, and the last time she saw him was about 11:00a. CRADDOCK last saw Ruby 11:00 a.m Friday, November 22, 1963 when he was in the Classified Ad Section preparing advertisements for his Carousel Club and she had received no message of any sort from him since the assassination of President KENNEDY.In a second FBI interview in July '64, Craddock remembered Ruby on the ground floor of the Dallas Morning News at about 11:00a. He only spoke loudly to her as he passed, "The President is coming today!", there was no other conversation with him. The other was Claire Conlon, she worked with Gladys, and told the FBI she was at lunch at the time. Tony Zoppi was not in his office. The Commission was well aware of these statements when it concluded Ruby had "...talked briefly with two newspaper employees concerning some diet pills..." and "...went to the office of Morning News columnist, Tony Zoppi.." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Campbell's OfficeDon Campbell was the AD salesman for the DMN, and allegedly the last person to see Ruby before the assassination. He told the FBI he returned about 12 noon and Jack was sitting in his office. He spoke with him for a period of time and left. There is no time frame for how long he spoke to Ruby, and Jack gave no span in his statement to the FBI Attorney Belli questioned Campbell at Ruby's trial and lead the witness into this timeline; from Ruby's trial:Belli. Now, what time in Dallas was the President assassinated? Campbell. According to the newspaper stories about 12:35. Belli. About 12:35. And Jack was with you from 12:00 to 12:25, is that right? Campbell. Yes sir. Belli. And then he left you just before the assassination, is that right? Campbell. I left him. Belli. You left him. Well, the two of you departed just before the assassination. Campbell. I left the building at 12:25.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Sept 27, 2020 10:12:39 GMT -5
Campisi's with a TwistThe waves of deception run deeper as the report leans on a meeting at Capisi's Egyptian Lounge the night before. Founded as "The Egyptian Lounge" by Johnny Brazil Grisaffi in 1946, it was bought by the Campisi brothers, Joe and Sam in the late 50s, and renamed, "Campisi's Egyptian Restaurant". It was rumored Joseph Campisi was the successor to Dallas kingpin Joseph Civillo, both with ties to Carlos Marcello. The report covers for Ruby and helps establish the alibi he needed for the next day. Ruby had dinner with his friend Ralph Paul. While at dinner (according to the report), Jack happened to see Dallas Morning News man Don Campbell. That is in conflict with what he told the FBI in their Dec. '63 statement. Perhaps he couldn't remember the man's name while talking to the FBI. He called him Connors. from the report:"...Ruby had dinner with Ralph Paul, his close friend and financial backer. While dining, Ruby spoke briefly with a Dallas Morning News employee, Don Campbell, who suggested that they go to the Castaway Club, but Ruby declined."from the FBI statement:"While they were eating at the Egyptian Lounge, a man named Connors, who is a salesman for the Dallas Morning News newspaper came over to the table and invited Ruby over to the Castaway Club. Ruby declined." His testimony can correct the mistake. It is the Commission's responsibility to set the record straight. On the stand Jack did not clarify, the report took the advantage as Don Campbell, Thursday night. Then during the Ruby trial, Attorney Belli to Don Campbell, raised doubts if the meeting actually took place 11/21. Further, Joseph Campisi doubted the meeting to the HSCA, although he said he wasn't there, it is hard to believe him, when on Dec. 7, 1963, he told the FBI that Thursday night, "...Ruby came to the Egyptian Lounge for a steak."Whichever it is, the report takes these digressions without further verification, and assumed Jack met Don Campbell the night before. The person, place and timing of the meeting is all in doubt, there is nothing to confirm its purpose of any pre meeting for the next day. Campbell told Belli he had known Jack for "approximately four years" and, again "a period of years", yet Ruby never referred to him by name. Ruby testimony:"All right. Thursday night I was having dinner at the Egyptian Restaurant on Mockingbird Lane, and a fellow comes over to the table. I was sitting with a guy by the name of Ralph Paul. He tried to invite me to the club a couple of doors down and I refused, because he had taken a band away from me that had been engaged for 7 years, and I felt it was a lost cause, that the club would be failing because of that, and I sort of excused myself and I refused to go over to the club." Campbell at the Ruby Trial:Belli. And had you seen him the night before, you had seen him the night before at the Egyptian Club, and wanted him to go some place, am 1 right on that, the Egyptian Restaurant? Campbell. I can't recall whether it was the night before had seen him, I believe during the week before. [Belli immediately changed the subject]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Joseph Campisi | HSCA TestimonyQ. Now, on the Thursday night before the assassination of President Kennedy, Jack Ruby had dinner at the Egyptian? A. That's what they say there. I didn't work that Saturday night. My brother worked that night. Whether Jack was there that Thursday night, I don't know. Q. There was a statement taken from your brother indicating that along about 9:45, 10:00, Jack Ruby and Ralph Paul came in and had a steak at the restaurant. A. Could have been. I don't recall. I don't even know whether he even took a -- did they say they took a deposition from my brother Sam? Q. There is a report from the FBI which purports to be a conversation with your brother, yes, sir. A. I really don't know. I read that where they said that he was there that Thursday night, but it wasn't no big discussion about it or anything, you know. I don't recall. But I saw that. Now, you are telling me that they talked to Sam? Q. Yes, sir, on the 11th of January, 1964, they had an interview with Sam Campisi, and that interview indicates that your brother stated, and this is in quotes, as best he recalls Ruby and Paul arrived at the restaurant between 9:45 and 10:00 p.m., had dinner there, staying some 45 minutes. A. Uh-huh. Could have been. Q. Did you ever discuss with your brother at that period of time whether or not Jack Ruby and Ralph Paul had been in the restaurant the night before? A. No. Q. He never brought that to your attention? A. I don't remember. Q. None of the employees at the restaurant ever brought that to your attention? A. No. They could have, you know, but I don't recall. I don't recall.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Sept 27, 2020 10:13:08 GMT -5
After the FactThere are several Dallas Morning News employees that saw Jack Ruby in the office after the assassination. There are none that saw Jack in Don Campbell's office before 12:40p. There is no clock to verify accuracy. His time as having left Don Campbell at 12:25p is an approximation that cannot be verified by any witnesses. There is no support for him having spoken to the two girls about diet pills or actually engaging with Tony Zoppi. Jack Ruby was in the office before it happened, he made a point of speaking loudly to be seen and heard by others. There is no proof of him being in the DMN building at the time of the assassination. Immediately after the shooting Tom Tilson and Jean Hill both saw a man running from the plaza that looked like Ruby. I am convinced they both saw the same man in a dark suit, but there is not enough time for this to be Jack. Although there was something further Tilson said. Tilson to HSCA:"That impression was so strong in Tilson's mind that he noted that Ruby showed a lot of "resourcefulness" in arranging to be identified in a newspaper office at the time of the assassination with a lot of influential witnesses." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Other DMN EmployeesBilly A. Rea:Mr. HUBERT. You figure that when you came down from the press room it was about 1 o'clock?Mr. REA. Yes, within 5 or 10 minutes either way. Mr. HUBERT. Is that the first time you saw Ruby? Mr. REA. Yes.Mr. HUBERT. Where was he then? Mr. REA. He was at Don Campbell's desk--that's where he was. He was sitting there in Don Campbell's chair which was directly in front of John Newnam's desk, not Georgia Mayor's. Mr. HUBERT. What was he doing? Mr. REA. Sitting there---just sitting there. ----------------------------------------------------- Georgia Mayor worked in the advertisement dept. at the Dallas Morning News. She told the FBI she was told of the President being shot as she was returning to work. Then further states she returned to her desk at 12:30p and saw Jack Ruby sitting in a chair directly in front of her. Her time estimates cannot be correct for also cashing a check and then returning, as the assassination occurred at 12:30p FBI report; Miss Mayor stated that she had received information as she was returning from her lunch hour that the President had been shot, she stated that Hal Coley had furnished her this information and she said that after stopping briefly downstairs to cash a check, she came directly to the advertising room by the elevator.--------------------------------------------------------- John NewmanMr. HUBERT. Could you tell us what time it was you first saw Ruby on that day ? Mr. NEWNAM. It was approximately 12:40. Mr. HUBERT. Approximately what time do you think you saw the President pass? Mr. NEWNAM. I would say approximately 12--it must have been about 12:25 or possibly 12:26. Mr. HUBERT. Did you leave your position on Austin and Main and proceed to walk back to the Dallas Morning News Building, immediately after the President himself had passed in the motorcade? Mr. NEWNAM. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. And you walked the 7 blocks or so? Mr. NEWNAM. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. When you got there, was Ruby on the second floor of the Dallas Morning News? Mr. NEWNAM. Yes; he was. Mr. HUBERT. Was he standing or sitting or what was he doing? Mr. NEWNAM. He was sitting at my desk.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Sept 27, 2020 10:13:33 GMT -5
Watch the FireworksOn April 06, 1977, the FBI was made aware of an incident involving Jack Ruby, and an IRS informant named Bob Vanderslice. A few weeks prior, Vanderslice told an IRS Intelligence officer that Jack Ruby had telephoned him on the morning of the assassination, and had asked if he would "...like to watch the fireworks."Vanderslice went further to say that he stood next to Ruby at the Postal Annex Building at the time of the shooting and that Jack immediately took off toward the Dallas Morning News Building without saying a word to him after it happened. www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32149267.pdfThis was part of the 2017 release and hasn't been reviewed since 1999. Evidence of Jack being somewhere besides the Dallas Morning News was promptly buried in 1977, even during the HSCA inquiry. More importantly, foreknowledge of the assassination, scoured through the lies of the Commission is evident in these documents. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FBI MemoFuhlendorg advised several weeks ago, specific date not recalled, he met Vanderslice at the restaurant on the twenty-fifth floor of the Manor House on Commerce St. in Dallas TX. Fuhlendorf stated that Vanderslice talked to him about Candy Barr, a former stripper in one of Jack's nightclubs.
This conversation led to Vanderslice discussion his knowledge of Ruby. Vanderslice told him that on the morning of the assassination, Jack Ruby called him on the telephone and asked him if he would "..like to watch the fireworks."
Vanderslice said that he was with Jack Ruby standing on the corner of the Postal Annex Building facing the Texas School Book Depository Building at the time of the shooting. Immediately after the shooting, Ruby left headed toward the area of the Dallas Morning News Building without saying a word.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 12, 2020 9:17:50 GMT -5
A Big Easy
Lee Oswald arrived in New Orleans sometime after the Walker shooting, probably around April 24th '63. He was supposed to have the rifle follow later and would have had to go out 6+ miles, to wherever he buried it after the shooting on the 10th. Remember, Oswald didn't drive a car. There is no explanation how Lee got to New Orleans. He went ahead to get a job, before calling for Marina. It is incredible to think, the rifle made the round trip, Dallas to New Orleans, and Lee never got in the car.
Once settled in a rented apartment on Magazine St., Lee got a job at The Reilly Coffee CO. he then called for his family, who along with Mrs. Paine, packed up the car [and rife], to New Orleans. Oswald stayed there for the summer, then sent Marina back to Dallas in Sept. as he took off for Mexico City. Without the gun. He left this attempted murder weapon unattended to the hands of whoever unpacks it. Nobody did. Added to that, neither of the Paines remembered unloading any long package in Dallas. Ruth said she only noticed it sometime later.
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"In June 1963, Ruby visited New Orleans, where he obtained the services of a stripper known as "Jada," who became his featured performer. Jada and Ruby had numerous contract disputes and he was concerned about her high salary, recurrent absenteeism, and diminishing drawing power.
Moreover, he thought that Jada had deliberately exceeded even the Carousel's liberal standards of decency in order to cause him to lose his license or to obtain publicity for herself. On several occasions Ruby excitedly turned off the spotlights during her act, and at the end of October 1963, he fired her." The Warren Report | Page 797
Jack Ruby was originally from Chicago and moved to Dallas with his brothers to start a business in 1947. He first opened as mail order in fear of religious persecution against a Jewish store front. Further, he shortened his name from Rubenstein to Ruby, and began managing nite clubs and burlesque houses. He took over and eventually owned the Carousal Club on Commerce St. in Dallas, just a few blocks from Dealey Plaza.
In the first week of June 1963, he traveled to New Orleans to hire a new girl, "Jada." Performers at his clubs were part of the American Guild of Variety Artists (AGVA), According to spartacus-educational, when Jada caused trouble for the union, some of Jack's calls to certain mob associates increased. Researcher Seth Kantor and the HSCA, both found connections between Jack Ruby and the mafia from Chicago to Miami to New Orleans.
Kantor took the government to court on the Freedom of Information Act, and confirmed the increases in Ruby's phone records. Established connections with associates from Carlos Marcello to Jack Ruby thru the strippers circuit between Dallas and New Orleans. Robert Blakey said in an ABC interview in 2004: "I can show you that there's a bar in New Orleans, and back in the '60s, bars used to have strippers and the strippers circuit is from Jack Ruby's strip joint in Dallas to Marcello-connected strip joints in the New Orleans area. So I can bring this connection."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 12, 2020 9:18:18 GMT -5
Guns to Cuba
In April 1959, Miami mob boss, Santos Trafficante was arrested by Castro forces and imprisoned in Cuba. Jack Ruby had been vacationing in Havana that year and had been very close to Trafficante associate Lewis McWillis. McWillis wanted protection and asked Jack to order some guns. Ruby smuggled in 4 revolvers from Ray Brantly in Dallas. That lead to Jack helping McWillis get the Trafficonte cash out of the closed casinos and back to the United States.
Meanwhile about a month earlier, Jack was contacted by the FBI for use as a possible informant in these matters. He met with FBI nine times throughout 1959, although the agency maintained they dropped him from the program in Oct. that year, Seth Kantor told Gerald Spence in 1986: "That Jack Ruby had been a, what the FBI called a, a PCI, a potential criminal informer." In August 1978, Earl Golz wrote an article for the Dallas Morning News, outlining some of these gunrunning activities in 1959.
James Baeird was a poker playing partner of Jack Ruby. In 1966, he told the FBI, Jack was involved in gun running activities to Cuba. The FBI did nothing for ten years. Then, in June 1976, the US Senate recommended a new investigation into the JFK assassination. By that time investigators were aware of recently declassified files outlining US plots to assassinate Castro using mafia hoodlums. The agent that interviewed Baeird in 1976 made no reference to any 1966 report,
"...there had been so much. speculation as to possible foreign connections and he (Beaird) thought it better not to mention his knowledge of Jack Ruby in Kemah (southeast of Houston on Galveston Bay)."
"Beaird told the FBI that he "personally saw many boxes of new guns, including automatic rifles and handguns," stored in a 2-story house near the channel at Kemah and loaded on what looked like a 50-foot surplus military boat."
Ruby's operation went from Kemah TX (near Houston, from Galveston Bay) about 450 miles from New Orleans. Jack would arrive in Kemah, on the weekends and play poker for a couple of hours while the boat was being loaded. Ruby's interest in New Orleans, was thru the stripper circuit, then gun running in Cuba for his mob associates. Jack was based in Dallas, but was involved with anti-Castro groups, some of whom were tied to the mob out of New Orleans. They all had that same interest.
The Warren Commission was aware of concerns as early as March 1964, suggesting Ruby was involved in illegal activities. Testimony from two former Warren Commission attorneys to the HSCA raises serious doubts about the thoroughness of the WC investigation into the activities Ruby was involved in before November 22nd. Activities that are similar to suggested conspiracy theories that the assassination stemmed from a US intelligence operation to eliminate Castro.
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"There was evidence that two Warren Commission staff attorneys, Leon D. Hubert and Burt W. Griffin, who were assigned to investigate the Ruby area, had doubts about the report's conclusions.
In a memorandum to the Commission, dated March 19, 1964, they Griffin and Hubert further discussed various rumors which they characterized as "possible links among Ruby, Oswald, and various Cuba groups." These included the possibility that Ruby might have been involved in illegal activities in Cuba. The two men stated that the rumors had not been "sufficiently investigated or substantiated."
In his testimony before the committee, Griffin stated that the Warren Commission's investigation did not adequately focus on the possibility that Ruby was involved in illegal activities with Cuban elements who might have had contact with Oswald."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 12, 2020 9:18:47 GMT -5
Reserve the ExceptionRegis Kennedy was a 26 year veteran of the FBI in New Orleans. He worked closely with agent Warren deBrueys deBrueys was the FBI senior that accompanied Lee Oswald to anti-Castro meetings in New Orleans in the summer of '63. When the Garrison investigation called deBrueys to the Grand Jury, he refused to appear. Instead they got Regis Kennedy. Kennedy did nothing more than to take exception to answering very specific questions regarding Jack Ruby's engagements that summer. It was a puzzling move to the Grand Jurors, listening in appall to such uncooperative action from a government law enforcement agency. Years later, Jack Ruby was confirmed as an FBI informant by both the HSCA and Dallas Reporter Seth Kantor. Here was FBI in New Orleans having knowledge of who he met within the city, while at the same time Lee Oswald was in town. All involved have an interest in anti-Castro groups, and had a brush entanglement with them, however brief. The HSCA cited the Warren Commission's investigation into Jack Ruby's actions in Cuba as inadequate. The exception Regis Kennedy was given, prevented the primary agency involved from assisting in this investigation. Why? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Regis Kennedy (FBI) | Shaw Trial, Grand Jury TestimonyMay 16, 1967I would like to further inform this Grand Jury that I have been directed by a telegram from the Attorney General of the United States as follows: "The subpoena served on you to testify before the Grand Jury in New Orleans Parish Criminal District Court May 16, 1967 this confirms that pursuant to departmental order 32464 dated October 8, 1964 in Federal Register Vol. 29, No. 199, page 14027, dated October 10, 1964, you are directed to respectfully refuse to testify about or disclose information or material acquired in the performance of your official duties or because of your official status. See U.S. ex rel Touhy vs. Ragen, 340 U.S. 462 and consol order 32464 procedured as follows; and further I am prohibited by Departmental order No. 32464 from giving any information or material which has been acquired by me in the performance of my official duties as status of special agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation."Q. Are you familiar with Jack Ruby's visits to New Orleans in the summer of 1963? A. I reserve the privilege on Q. Do you know Jack Ruby visited when he came here in the summer of 1963? A. I have to reserve the exception. Q. Do you know who he met when he came here? A. I will reserve an exception on that. Q. Do you have some knowledge of what Jack Ruby did when he came to New Orleans? A. I have to reserve an exception on that. Q. Do you know who he met when he came here? A. I will reserve an exception on that. Q. Do you have some knowledge of what Jack Ruby did when he came to New Orleans? A. I have to reserve an exception on that. Q. Do I understand you correctly in saying that you do not know the purpose of Ruby's visits here in' the summer of 1963? A. Yes sir. Q. But you do not want to say who he visited? A. The only way I know of how Ruby came or what he did in New Orleans was the result of other information which comes within the exception and I cannot answer. ------------------------------------------------------------ Q. Do you know whether or not any Federal agents regularly attended the meetings of the Cuban Revolutionary Democratic Front in the summer of 1963? A. I make reference to my previous comment. Q. Is it not a fact that that agent was Warren deBrueys? A. I would like to respectfully reserve...
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 12, 2020 9:19:05 GMT -5
HSCA | Conclusions The House Select Committee on Assassination concluded Kennedy was probably killed as a result of a conspiracy. That conclusion was not based solely on the acoustic evidence of a 2 nd gunman. One element that could not be precluded was the connection to anti-Castro groups. The committee addressed the issue from a distance citing a magnitude that could not have been missed by the investigators. That dismissal is erroneous when the agencies are the investigators controlling the dissemination of the evidence. "Based on the evidence available to it, the committee could not preclude the possibility that individual members of anti-Castro Cuban groups or the national syndicate of organized crime were involved in the assassination. There was insufficient evidence, however, to support a finding that any individual members were involved. The ramifications of a conspiracy involving such individuals would be significant, although of perhaps less import than would be the case if a group itself, the national syndicate, for example had been involved." Outside of the acoustic evidence the committee found fault with any weight given to the WCs investigation of conspiracy. The Commission and FBIs investigation of conspiracy was seriously flawed, and were incorrect to conclude that, "Oswald and Ruby had no significant associations." The ability of the committee to further investigate these leads was seriously hindered by the access of information regarding anti-Castro activities involving the CIA. It was possible a limited conspiracy existed related to these associations. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Findings:"The committee found that, to be precise and loyal to the facts it established, it was compelled to find that President Kennedy was probably killed as a result of a conspiracy. The committee's finding that President Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy was premised on four factors:
1) Since the Warren Commission's and FBI's investigation into the possibility of a conspiracy was seriously flawed, their failure to develop evidence of a conspiracy could not be given independent weight.
2) The Warren Commission was, in fact, incorrect in concluding that Oswald and Ruby had no significant associations, and therefore its finding of no conspiracy was not reliable.
3) While it cannot be inferred from the significant associations of Oswald and Ruby that any of the major groups examined by the committee were involved in the assassination, a more limited conspiracy could not be ruled out.
4) There was a high probability that a second gunman, in fact, fired at the President. At the same time, the committee candidly stated, in expressing its finding of conspiracy in the Kennedy assassination, that it was "unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy."www.jfklancer.com/HSCA.html+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Stifled Still When it cane to New Orleans, the HSCA were unaware of the background of their liaison to the CIA, George Joannides. Joannides had directed and financed Directorio Revolucionario Estudantil (DRE), or Student Revolutionary Directorate, a group of Cuban exiles whose officers had contact with Lee Harvey Oswald. HSCA were never told.
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