Post by Michael Capasse on Feb 20, 2024 16:17:34 GMT -5
The possibility of a gun-running operation out of TSBD is the subject of our newest thread, "Standing in the Doorway"
If such activity was going on, then I would put the engagement in the hands of CIA operative William Shelley.
His right hand man was Billy Lovelady. Either one would have to anything know about the killing of the president.
Lee, involved, could easily have been duped into carrying a piece of a rifle in like he may have done previously.
Once the assassination happened all bets are off against Lee. He was the rat. No one could ever talk about the guns.
If such activity was going on, then I would put the engagement in the hands of CIA operative William Shelley.
His right hand man was Billy Lovelady. Either one would have to anything know about the killing of the president.
Lee, involved, could easily have been duped into carrying a piece of a rifle in like he may have done previously.
Once the assassination happened all bets are off against Lee. He was the rat. No one could ever talk about the guns.
I'm looking for evidence of gun-running out of TSBD. I suspect it was done from the basement. - Feel free to "Reply"
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David Harold Byrd, was the owner of TSBD at the time of the assassination. He was born in 1900, originally from Detroit.
While studying geology at the University of Texas, he got involved in the oil industry and joined, Old Dominion Oil Company.
In 1925, he became a freelance geologist, and in 1928, struck oil in San Antonio and founded the Byrd-Daniels oil-field.
At one point, producing 1,000 barrels a day at $3 a barrel. He became a very rich and powerful oil man in Texas.
A friend of George de Mohrenschildt, David Atlee Phillips, George H. W. Bush, Col. Jack Crichton and Dallas Mayor, Earle Cabell.
In 1941, he co-founded the Civil Air Patrol. "CAP was seen as a way to use America's civilian aviation resources to aid
the war effort instead of grounding them. The organization assumed many missions, including anti-submarine patrol and
warfare, border patrols, and courier services."Wiki After World War II, these groups were used throughout Latin America.
Former, New Orleans CAP Cadet, Tony Atzenhoffer, spoke to JFK Researcher, William Weston in 1998. and said that Col. Byrd was the
"head honcho" of the Civil Air Patrol in Louisiana and Texas and would give orientation speeches to new cadets.
Both David Ferrie & Lee Oswald, were members of CAP. Ferrie bragged about, flying CIA and mob missions in and out of Cuba.
Barry Seal, was from Baton Rouge LA, born in 1939. He got his pilot's license at an early age (15) and joined CAP in Baton Rouge.
He did training in New Orleans with Capt. Ferrie. It was there, that he also met Lee Harvey Oswald. In 1958, he began flying
weapons to help Castro overthrow Fulgencio Batista, once that happened, Seal was recruited for direct attacks against Castro.
Seal's connection to Byrd's CAP and the sudden arrival of Oswald back to Dallas, a job at TSBD, and then taken off the FBI hot list.
It all seemed to fall into place in matter of a few short weeks. It was a CIA game of back and forth. There is no reason to exclude
the possibility that DH Byrd's group of CAP were involved with weapons against Castro. It makes further sense, considering the plotters
would have a place in which to work. The building was secured sometime in late summer '63. William Shelley was CIA, and had been there
since 1945.
Lee Oswald, may have been the "rat" reporting on it.
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Wear on My Sleeve
If Lee Oswald for framed for the murder of JFK, he wouldn't know it in the few minutes before the president arrived.
He said, he ate his lunch in the building on the first floor. He went upstairs to get a 'coke' to have with his sandwich.
He told, Capt Fritz, he was with William Shelley, and his boss testified he saw Lee in the lunchroom just before 12p.
I think, he and Shelley, were just inside the front door when they heard the cheer of the crowd as the limo made the turn.
Then, Lee stepped out to see the president. That is why no one nearby saw him standing while waiting. Then, he went inside.
It is primarily the shirt, that is an absolute indicator that it was not Lovelady. See how tight the red plaid shirt was on Lovelady.
Look at the film of Lovelady on the 6th floor, wearing the short sleeved shirt he wore, when asked what did he wear that day.
Notice how the shirt drapes over Lee. look at his right side front, along the button seam. Notice how it sags out of line on both shirts.
See his hand posture, five times in the 44 hours he was held, appears to be the same as the man in the Altgens picture.
There is a red plaid shirt, a short sleeved striped shirt, and a shirt in the photograph that shows neither.
The shirt that Lovelady wore in 1967, he claimed to be "the shirt", has distinctly wide patterns of square.
Oswald's shirt is more of a tweed pattern, that might reflect in the sun in a linear fashion, but, not like the plaid.
This posting alone, is absolute proof that the man in doorway was NOT Billy Lovelady. These pictures expose that obvious lie.
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Shelley, Lovelady, Frazier & Oswald
IF, these four were involved with Cuban gun running out of TSBD, and were standing on the front steps at the
time of Altgens picture, but knew nothing about JFK being killed, their time line might look something like this;
Immediately after the shots, Lee may have been instructed to go to the basement, but take the front stairs.
Frazier, went back inside, and walked to the back of the first floor. He too, may have been instructed. "Go alone".
Shelley & Lovelady began walking toward the railroad tracks. When Gloria Calvery, told them what she saw, the
two circled to the back door of TSBD, where Shelley had to make a call. Once Lee had his encounter on the 2nd
floor, he walked downstairs, probably looking for Shelley. He would have found him at the back of the building.
Shelley, would be covering his tracks on the operation immediately after shots, giving directions from the call he had just made.
Then, Frazier did something odd. He testified, he went down to the basement by himself and ate his lunch. Is it possible,
he was down there for gun cleanup? Did Lee go with him? Did the four of them go down for a quick meeting before
Shelley released Oswald to his boarding house for further instructions? There is a movement of time not accounted
for by all parties. Between the shots, and the moment Lee disappeared from the building. VP, O.V. Campbell would have
gotten this information from Shelley:
"Shortly after the shooting we raced back into the building. We had been outside watching the parade.
We saw him (Oswald) in a small storage room on the ground floor. Then we noticed he was gone.”
Mr Campbell added: “Of course he and the others were on their lunch hour but he did not have
permission to leave the building and we haven’t seen him since.” Shelley could've contained him, "I need to talk to you".
Once Lee was gone, Shelley testified, he had not seen Oswald immediately after the shots, and did not
give him permission to leave. He would be forced to keep his mouth shut about anything further that went on.
Yet, is it possible, that a call came down to Shelley, instructing Lee to bring in part of a gun on Friday.
"...tell Frazier, 'Don't walk in with him'..." Buell could even have helped make the package, but without knowing
anything about what was about to happen. Once it did, not one could say a word. Yet, all four would know.
While studying geology at the University of Texas, he got involved in the oil industry and joined, Old Dominion Oil Company.
In 1925, he became a freelance geologist, and in 1928, struck oil in San Antonio and founded the Byrd-Daniels oil-field.
At one point, producing 1,000 barrels a day at $3 a barrel. He became a very rich and powerful oil man in Texas.
A friend of George de Mohrenschildt, David Atlee Phillips, George H. W. Bush, Col. Jack Crichton and Dallas Mayor, Earle Cabell.
In 1941, he co-founded the Civil Air Patrol. "CAP was seen as a way to use America's civilian aviation resources to aid
the war effort instead of grounding them. The organization assumed many missions, including anti-submarine patrol and
warfare, border patrols, and courier services."Wiki After World War II, these groups were used throughout Latin America.
Former, New Orleans CAP Cadet, Tony Atzenhoffer, spoke to JFK Researcher, William Weston in 1998. and said that Col. Byrd was the
"head honcho" of the Civil Air Patrol in Louisiana and Texas and would give orientation speeches to new cadets.
Both David Ferrie & Lee Oswald, were members of CAP. Ferrie bragged about, flying CIA and mob missions in and out of Cuba.
Barry Seal, was from Baton Rouge LA, born in 1939. He got his pilot's license at an early age (15) and joined CAP in Baton Rouge.
He did training in New Orleans with Capt. Ferrie. It was there, that he also met Lee Harvey Oswald. In 1958, he began flying
weapons to help Castro overthrow Fulgencio Batista, once that happened, Seal was recruited for direct attacks against Castro.
Seal's connection to Byrd's CAP and the sudden arrival of Oswald back to Dallas, a job at TSBD, and then taken off the FBI hot list.
It all seemed to fall into place in matter of a few short weeks. It was a CIA game of back and forth. There is no reason to exclude
the possibility that DH Byrd's group of CAP were involved with weapons against Castro. It makes further sense, considering the plotters
would have a place in which to work. The building was secured sometime in late summer '63. William Shelley was CIA, and had been there
since 1945.
Lee Oswald, may have been the "rat" reporting on it.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Wear on My Sleeve
If Lee Oswald for framed for the murder of JFK, he wouldn't know it in the few minutes before the president arrived.
He said, he ate his lunch in the building on the first floor. He went upstairs to get a 'coke' to have with his sandwich.
He told, Capt Fritz, he was with William Shelley, and his boss testified he saw Lee in the lunchroom just before 12p.
I think, he and Shelley, were just inside the front door when they heard the cheer of the crowd as the limo made the turn.
Then, Lee stepped out to see the president. That is why no one nearby saw him standing while waiting. Then, he went inside.
It is primarily the shirt, that is an absolute indicator that it was not Lovelady. See how tight the red plaid shirt was on Lovelady.
Look at the film of Lovelady on the 6th floor, wearing the short sleeved shirt he wore, when asked what did he wear that day.
Notice how the shirt drapes over Lee. look at his right side front, along the button seam. Notice how it sags out of line on both shirts.
See his hand posture, five times in the 44 hours he was held, appears to be the same as the man in the Altgens picture.
There is a red plaid shirt, a short sleeved striped shirt, and a shirt in the photograph that shows neither.
The shirt that Lovelady wore in 1967, he claimed to be "the shirt", has distinctly wide patterns of square.
Oswald's shirt is more of a tweed pattern, that might reflect in the sun in a linear fashion, but, not like the plaid.
This posting alone, is absolute proof that the man in doorway was NOT Billy Lovelady. These pictures expose that obvious lie.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Shelley, Lovelady, Frazier & Oswald
IF, these four were involved with Cuban gun running out of TSBD, and were standing on the front steps at the
time of Altgens picture, but knew nothing about JFK being killed, their time line might look something like this;
Immediately after the shots, Lee may have been instructed to go to the basement, but take the front stairs.
Frazier, went back inside, and walked to the back of the first floor. He too, may have been instructed. "Go alone".
Shelley & Lovelady began walking toward the railroad tracks. When Gloria Calvery, told them what she saw, the
two circled to the back door of TSBD, where Shelley had to make a call. Once Lee had his encounter on the 2nd
floor, he walked downstairs, probably looking for Shelley. He would have found him at the back of the building.
Shelley, would be covering his tracks on the operation immediately after shots, giving directions from the call he had just made.
Then, Frazier did something odd. He testified, he went down to the basement by himself and ate his lunch. Is it possible,
he was down there for gun cleanup? Did Lee go with him? Did the four of them go down for a quick meeting before
Shelley released Oswald to his boarding house for further instructions? There is a movement of time not accounted
for by all parties. Between the shots, and the moment Lee disappeared from the building. VP, O.V. Campbell would have
gotten this information from Shelley:
"Shortly after the shooting we raced back into the building. We had been outside watching the parade.
We saw him (Oswald) in a small storage room on the ground floor. Then we noticed he was gone.”
Mr Campbell added: “Of course he and the others were on their lunch hour but he did not have
permission to leave the building and we haven’t seen him since.” Shelley could've contained him, "I need to talk to you".
Once Lee was gone, Shelley testified, he had not seen Oswald immediately after the shots, and did not
give him permission to leave. He would be forced to keep his mouth shut about anything further that went on.
Yet, is it possible, that a call came down to Shelley, instructing Lee to bring in part of a gun on Friday.
"...tell Frazier, 'Don't walk in with him'..." Buell could even have helped make the package, but without knowing
anything about what was about to happen. Once it did, not one could say a word. Yet, all four would know.