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Post by Michael Capasse on Sept 11, 2023 18:25:35 GMT -5
Time Changes Everything About a half hour after the assassination, Dallas Police Officer, JD Tippit, was shot and killed in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. That was just about a mile from where Oswald had an apartment. The time dispute relates to his ability to get there, Lee didn't drive a car. He was seen at his rooming house by the landlady, just a few minutes after 1pm. The cop was probably shot between 1:06 and 1:10pm. The official record shows a time of the killing at about 1:15pm. This would have given Lee adequate time to be seen at Tenth St. But there is overwhelming evidence, the murder happened at a much earlier time, that would not have given Oswald the ability to get there. TF Bowley, was driving by. One witness was already there trying to work the radio. Bowley looked at his watch, the time was 1:10p. Helen Markham, was on the scene before the shooting occurred. She was about 50 feet away, at the opposite corner, when it happened. She had just come from the Washateria Laundromat. After using the payphone to call her daughter, she checked the time, it was 1:04p. The FBI, timed her walk from where she hung up the phone, to where she stood that afternoon: "Two minutes and thirty seconds."Everybody has a 'get ready for work' routine, most run like clockwork. Passing the same places at the same time on a daily basis. It only took 2 1/2 minutes to walk to her stop, there was no need to wait an additional 10 min. for the next bus after leaving at 1:04p She gave herself an almost 10 minute buffer to be sure she catches her usual 1:12p. On this day, she arrived at about 1:06p. Mrs. Margie Higgins, lived with her husband Donald, at 417 East 10th St., just a few houses away from the shooting. As she was watching TV, the announcer said the time was "Six minutes after one", she looked at her clock, then heard the shots. However long it took to hear the shots after seeing the time is specifically unclear, but close enough to associate the two in a moment. It most certainly was 8-10 minutes before the official time given in the Report. This is not a mistake or blunder of "The Keystone Cops @ Dallas". This is serious manipulation of evidence and disregard for the truth. Some authority, Dallas Police, or FBI, or a combination of the two, was steering the evidence to the 'Oswald conclusion' as it happened. There was simply not enough time for Lee to have traversed that distance and have been there at the time of the shooting. Four documents concerning the shooting of Officer Tippit have typed over changes. The FBI produced two of these changed documents and the DPD contributed another two. In each case, these type overs occurred in the time at which Tippit was pronounced dead. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The DocumentsThe following reports on the death of Officer Tippit have at least one type over. These corrections occur in the time of death or pronouncement of death. A report by the FBI report on information obtained from Dr. Liquori, who pronounced Tippit dead, has the digit for tens of minutes typed over.  Officer Davenport reported that following an unsuccessful attempt at resuscitation, Liquori pronounced Tippit dead at two or more possible times. In this case the fields for tens of minutes and minutes are typed over.  The FBI report on the records of the funeral home has the digit for tens of minutes typed over for the time of death pronouncement.  This last one, is from the Tippit Homicide report from Dallas Police Officer CE Talbert. Once again, the digit in the field for ten minutes appears to be manipulated. This time to read 1: 18pm.  I put these documents here to view complete.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Sept 27, 2023 15:01:29 GMT -5
Moving Boxes Robert Lee Studebaker, was a detective in the Crime Scene Service Section, of the ID Bureau of the Dallas Police Department. He had been with the police force since Feb. '54. His testimony was taken in Dallas, on April 06, 1964, by Attorney Joseph Ball. On 11/22, he and Lt. Carl Day got the call to go to the TSBD, "We took our camera and fingerprint kits and our truck."Studebaker testified, they got the call just after 1pm. When he and Day arrived, they were immediately directed to the sixth floor. Upon arrival, there was only the shells, they had not yet found the rifle. They only brought 1 camera. He took two pictures of the hulls. "Yes, sir; that's why, right after these were taken, they said they had found a rifle and to bring the cameras over
to the northwest corner of the building where the rifle was found and I loaded everything up and carried it over there." The 6th floor was immediately pointed out and although the building was sealed, there was no organized search of the entire building. The assassination occurred at 12:30p Dallas time. The first officer on the scene was, Deputy Sheriff, Luke Mooney. He saw the empty shells. No one was allowed to touch anything until the lab arrived. At about 1:22p, Dep. Sheriff Boone & Cst. Seymour Weitzman spotted the rifle. Lt. J.C. Day, & Studebaker, from the crime lab had arrived at about 1:15pm. Newsmen and press photographers, were already on the floor. Studebaker, admitted on the stand that boxes were moved before they were photographed. When asked if he had any photos before they were moved, the officer replied, "No". And so, sniper nest photographs in different configurations, were displayed to different witnesses. Dallas Police created the "Sniper's Nest". This is completely unacceptable behavior and procedure of crime scene evidence. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jibe Talkin'One of the most disturbing moments in the testimony came when, Det. Studebaker admitted, there were no photos before boxes were moved. It means there is no documented crime scene. It puts all the evidence of the Dallas Police on the 6th floor in question and doubt. After the detective made the admission, he tried to back peddle and changed his testimony that certain pictures were taken before movement. By then, the damage was already done. What is left in the record cannot be verified as true and accurate regarding configuration of the crime scene. Mr. BALL. Then, you don't have any pictures taken of the boxes before they were moved?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. No.Lt. Day, had the same problem while on the stand with Attorney Belin, when he was shown a copy of the Dillard Photo ( CE 482), He questioned the position of the box on the opposite side of the window, and stated quite plainly, "... (it) don't jibe with that box there." He went on to say, "I can't explain that box there depicted from the outside as related to the pictures that I took inside."+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Crossfire | Jim Marrs"Mrs. Mooneyham estimated that it was about four and a half to five minutes following the shots fired by the assassin, that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed the figure of a man standing in the sixth floor window behind some cardboard boxes. This man appeared to Mrs. Mooneyham to be looking out of the window, however, the man was not close up to the window but was standing slightly back from it, so that Mrs. Mooneyham could not make out his features...Adding support to Mrs. Mooneyham’s account of a man standing in the “ sniper’s nest” window minutes after the shooting are photographs taken about that time by military intelligence agent James Powell and
news photographer Tom Dillard.Dillard, who was riding in the motorcade, said he took a picture of the Depository facade seconds after the last shot was fired. Powell estimated his picture was made about thirty seconds after the final shot. A comparison with photos taken just prior to the shooting led photographic experts of the House Select Committee on Assassinations to conclude: “ There is an apparent rearranging of boxes within two minutes after the last shot was fired at President Kennedy.” Obviously, Oswald could not have been in the Depository lunchroom meeting Baker and Truly while arranging boxes on the sixth floor at the same time. Needless to say, Mrs. Mooneyham was never called as a witness before the Warren Commission. Her credible testimony remains buried in the Commission’s twenty-six volumes."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 10, 2023 20:18:23 GMT -5
Holding the Bag Problems further persist in the ownership of the bag that was found on the 6th floor. Frazier and his sister, Linnie Mae testified the bag was too long, and estimated the length at less than 28 in. "I told them that as far as the length there, I told them that was entirely too long."Lee himself, told his interrogators, he carried in no curtain rods, and only had his lunch. ...I didn't tell Buell Wesley Frazier anything about bringing back some curtain rods..."Dallas Police failed to photograph the bag in place at the time of the search. Instead, we are left with a photo of where the bag should have been, surrounded by dotted lines. The first 11 officers at the 'sniper's nest' did not see the bag that would been in plain view. Look at the picture above, this bag should have been draped out on the floor like a blanket. Yet, a photo in the 'sniper's nest', show Capt Fritz and others nearly on top of the bag location. There is no reason to believe that the rifle was ever broken down and put into that bag. There is no evidence of it. CE 2974 described the weapon "...in its present well oiled condition" There was no sign of any oil residue from the exposed parts, to the inside of the bag. Without that, an FBI document expert was called to try and determine if markings on the paper were consistent with the rifle being in the bag. Add to that, a trick question from Attorney Eisenberg, but the agent would not bite. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ James C. Cadigan | WC TestimonyMr. EISENBERG. Now, was there an absence of markings which would be inconsistent with the rifle having been carried in the bag? Mr. CADIGAN. "No; I don't see actually, I don't know the condition of the rifle. If it were in fact contained in this bag, it could have been wrapped in cloth or just the metal parts wrapped in a thick layer of cloth, or if the gun was in the bag, perhaps it wasn't moved too much. I did observe some scratch marks and abrasions but was unable to associate them with this gun. The scratch marks in the paper could come from any place. They could have come from many places. There were no marks on this bag that I could say were caused by that rifle or any other rifle or any other given instrument." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All of a SuddenThe bag has no proper chain of custody, the first officers in the "nest" did not see the bag. Although LT Day, signed the instrument, there is no indication of any cop even seeing the bag before 1:15pm when Day arrived on the scene. The curtain rod story is baffling because, there is nothing anyone can do to that rifle to make it look that small. That rifle is 40" in. long, and when broken down into two main components, it becomes 34.8. It can be no shorter. Curtain rods collapse. Frazier saw a bag he was sure, was carried from Lee's wrist to his armpit. That could not be the rifle. Oswald would have taken a big chance to hope his coworker would not see the rest of the bag as it rose past his ear. Lee had never lied to Frazier before, and Buell had no reason to doubt what was in the bag, and that makes no sense. The fingerprints on the bag are not consistent with someone having made the bag and the way he carried the package. A partial palm and thumb were the only prints found. The bag could have been made wearing work gloves but that still doesn't explain the lack of prints, in the areas that it was carried. Yet, he could have touched it during interrogations. Mr. STUDEBAKER. "There wasn't but just smudges on it - is all it was. There was one little ole piece of a print and I'm sure I put a piece of tape on it to preserve it." WC Report | page 135;"Oswald's palm print on the bottom of the paper bag indicated, of course, that he had handled the bag.
Furthermore, it was consistent with the bag having contained a heavy or bulky object when he handled it
since a light object is usually held by the fingers. The palm print was found on the closed end of the bag.
It was from Oswald's right hand, in which he carried the long package as he walked from Frazier's car to the building." Actually, it was not consistent with what Frazier saw. The palm print was found on an area that folded down. The pictures we are left with throughout this investigation are a complete disgrace. The Commission made no special accommodations for the best quality of photographs and documents. Our own, Dr Tony Fratini, created some graphics that make it easier to understand. The diamond shape on the left side of this graphic indicates a partial palm print that would demonstrate the bag was carried in a horizontal manner, something Frazier did not see. Furthermore, if the bag was shown to Lee during interrogations, and opened wide, he may have touched it, even pushed it away. Jim Marrs:
"When the Dallas evidence was shipped to the FBI laboratory early on November 23, there was no mention of the paper bag.
Instead, Dallas FBI agent-in-charge J. Gordon Shanklin mentioned the blanket, which he suggested was used to carry the
rifle into the Depository."" All of a sudden, there was a bag (CE 142). That, was not the bag Frazier saw.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 10, 2023 20:19:44 GMT -5
In the Pocket Lee Oswald, was arrested at the Texas Theater at about 1:45p, on Nov 22 nd, a little more than an hour after the assassination. Once put in the car, he was asked his name. When he refused to answer, his pockets were searched. Only his wallet was found. The only ID in his wallet, was that of Lee Harvey Oswald. There was no ID in the name of Alek Hidell, At the time, there was no evidence of any loose bullets in his pants pocket or any bus ticket in his shirt pocket. Questionable items found on his person, were a bus transfer found in the front pocket of his over shirt. It was 2.5 X 4 inches. The A.J. Hidell Certificate of Service card, allegedly found in his wallet. The killer at the Tippit scene dropped the ID before fleeing. And five .38 Special bullets, found more than 2 hours after Lee was in custody, and had already been "completely searched". +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Pass the TicketThe Commission report said, that Lee Oswald left the building within 3 minutes of the assassination, although no one saw this. He boarded a bus and took a seat. After a short while, it was obvious the traffic was not moving, so he walked to the front and took a transfer before getting off. That transfer, was supposed to be on him at the time of his arrest and " complete search". The bus driver, Cecil McWatters, told the DPD, the 2nd man in the line up looked like the man he picked up, but could not be sure. He told the Commission, that man was 'Milton Jones', because he had seen him since the assassination. Meanwhile, what is extremely puzzling is, how could the Dallas Police say, the transfer he handed to Jones, the only one of 2 passed out, was the one he gave to Lee? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Out of the BlueThere is no evidence Lee had any accessories for a gun or rifle, in his apartment, or in storage at the Paine house. That would include, a cleaning & maintenance kit, bullets, empty shells, or empty shell boxes. He denied having owned a rifle. His landlady never saw any sign of a gun, holster, or bullets. Yet, there was Lee wandering aimlessly with a pocket full of (10) bullets. Later, after being dragged out of the Texas Theater, Oswald was put in the back of a patrol car and his pockets were thoroughly searched. It took more than 2 hours, before DP Det. Elmer Boyd, discovered five .38 caliber bullets in Lee's pocket. "I put them in my pocket."Mr. BOYD. Well, let me see---it seems like we had a drawer there where we had some more property,
where we put it all in there you know, where they had the other stuff--I have forgotten just exactly where it would be.This evidence was put into a drawer, and while on the stand, he had forgotten where that was, or to whom it was given. His partner, Det. Richard Sims, didn't fare much better, he said, the rounds were put into an envelope and handed over to DPD, "I don't know who that was turned over to." Like so much other evidence, no officer properly documented the chain of custody. These bullets were never in Lee's pocket, and the FBI could not name who they were received from, 8 days after the assassination. Mr. EISENBERG. Can you tell us who you received them from?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. The Dallas office of the FBI. I have no first-hand knowledge. I know that they were received from
the Dallas Police Department--but that was due to what I have read in an FBI investigative report.
The laboratory received them from the Dallas office on November 30.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 10, 2023 20:20:12 GMT -5
The Wallet Dallas Reserve Officer, Kevin Croy, arrived at the Tippit scene just as the ambulance was loading the deceased. An unidentified witness walked up to Croy handed him a wallet, and said it was left on the ground. No identification of this person or place the wallet was left, no other witness ever described a wallet being dropped. Croy, testified to the Warren Commission on March 26, 1964. Asst. Council, Burt Griffin, was the questioning attorney. There were no questions about any wallet, Croy said he spoke to an hysterical woman, a cab driver, and some other witness on foot. Original television footage from WFAA-TV shows officers fingering thru a wallet that looks very much the one in the archives. FBI Agent, Bob Barrett, was at the Tippit scene when Capt W. R. Westbrook asked him, "You ever heard of a Lee Harvey Oswald?’ I said, ‘No, I never have.’ He said ‘How about an Alek Hidell?’ I said, ‘No. I never have heard of him either,'”. The agent said Westbrook was flipping thru this mysterious wallet while asking these names he didn't know. When Barrett retired, fellow officers, agents and even a witness signed a photograph from the scene in his honor. One accolade on that frame contains the only documented evidence that a wallet was found at the Tippit scene. Meanwhile, when Lee was taken into custody at the Texas Theater, he would not give his name. Once in the patrol car, officers searched his pockets for his wallet and found the ID, Lee Harvey Oswald. He had no Alek Hidell identification on him. Oswald told his interrogators, he never ordered a rifle under the name Hidell. [9:30 - 11:15 A.M., NOV. 24,1963 - Capt. Fritz's Office]"...I never ordered a rifle under the name of Hidell, Oswald, or any other name...I never permitted anyone
else to order a rifle to be received in this box. . . . I never ordered any rifle by mail order or bought any
money order for the purpose of paying for such a rifle...I didn't own any rifle. I have not practiced or shot with a rifle..."+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Combination of the TwoThen, both wallets were combined at police headquarters. When FBI agent Clements saw Lee in the interrogation room by himself at 10 that night, the wallet was on a desk in the room (7H320). While Lee was out of the room, Clements went through the wallet and listed its contents (H 615-17). Patrolman Leonard Jez, told a conference in 1999 that the wallet was identified at the murder scene as belonging to Oswald. Yet, the Hidell ID does not appear documented by FBI Clements until Fritz hands over the inventory on 11/27. Comparing the Clements list (H 615-17) with the Bookhout list of the photos Fritz supplied, The following items are absent from Clements: 1. Photo of Oswald in marine uniform
2. A.J. Hidell Certificate of Service
3. slip of paper with 2 addresses for The Worker That service card is key, and ties the murder weapon of the President with the officer's killer. But it's all very suspicious, instant like, when Belin asked Hill about the name Hidell, the SGT became coy, like he "couldn't say specifically", "...sounds like the name". That became the act by April 08, 1964. Mr. HILL. "That would be similar. I couldn't say specifically that is what it was,
because this was a conversation and I never did see it written down, but that sounds like the name that I heard."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 10, 2023 20:20:42 GMT -5
"I want my lawyer"  Lee Oswald, was arrested at about 2pm on Friday, Nov., 22, '63. He was handcuffed and put into of a patrol car at the Texas Theater. From the moment he was arrested, until his death under the protection of the Dallas Police, he repeatedly asked for an attorney. He never did get one. Throughout interrogation reports in Appendix XI, there is no indication Lee was even told he could have one. Then, very early Saturday morning, Capt. Fritz, wrote: "...Oswald asked if he could have an attorney and I told him he
could have any attorney he liked and that the telephone would be available to him up in the jail and he could call
anyone wished, I believe it was during his first interview that he first expressed a desire to call Mr. Abt.,
an attorney from New York..." (WCR pg 602)Lee was interrogated, brought thru line ups, fingerprinted, then more questions, then more line ups, and more questions. This went on until after midnight on Friday. The first time Oswald was "up in the jail" was after 12:00 AM Dallas time. 1:00 AM New York time. (WCR 198)There is no evidence Lee was given the actual opportunity before this moment. He had not been granted this opportunity "up in his cell" as promised the night before. Yet, he has been requesting an attorney since his arrest on Friday. His first choice of attorney was a New York lawyer named, John Abt. Oswald was also clear in his request for second choice if Apt was not available, "I want that attorney in New York, Mr. Abt. I don't know him personally but I know about a
case that he handled some years ago, where he represented the people who had violated the Smith Act, [which made it
illegal to teach or advocate the violent overthrow of the U.S. government] ... I don't know him personally, but that is
the attorney I want. ... If I can't get him, then I may get the American Civil Liberties Union to send me an attorney."Meanwhile, NY Attorney, John Apt, left for a weekend in Connecticut. The next day, he said, he had not received a request directly. Apt testified, he told the world on Saturday morning that, "...if I were requested to represent him, I felt that it would
probably be difficult, if not impossible, for me to do so because of my commitments to other clients."+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Nobody told LeeSecret Service Inspector Thomas Kelly wrote in his report on Saturday morning and quoted Oswald as saying, "if he could not get Abt and he would hope the Civil Liberties Union would give him an attorney to represent him"The next line of his report reads, "At that point Captain Fritz terminated the interview at about 11:30 a.m., 11/23/63" (WCR pg 627)By 2p Saturday, Marina was taken. They had no right to ask her anything without Lee or a lawyer being present. He could not reach her. Abt already told the world he was not be able to take the case. Lee had no knowledge of this and at 5pm a Public Defender, H. Lewis Nicols, was brought in. Oswald refused his services. He told Nicols he was being held "incommunicado" and if he cannot get Abt he would like an attorney from the ACLU. 5pm on Saturday, he still thought he could get Attorney Abt.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You Send MeGregory Olds, was the head of the Dallas Chapter of the ACLU. At some point he began getting calls from the public on Oswald's outspoken inability to get legal council. Olds and some colleagues went to the Dallas jail very late Friday evening. They spoke to Capt Glen King, and acting judge, Justice of the Peace, David Johnston. Both told him, Lee was given the opportunity to choose council and had not made any choice. They were sent away. Olds regretted not pushing the issue, and wondered if he would've been allowed if pursued. Mr. OLDS. "We went to--first, we talked-conferred with Captain King, I believe is the right name, who is, I believe, assistant to the chief of police. I'm not sure on that. We all went in with Mr. Webster, and this was shortly after 11:35, or 11:40, and Captain King was, at this time, talking to somebody and said that Oswald had just been charged with the assassination of President Kennedy. He had here earlier been charged with the assassination--I mean the murder of the policeman, Tippit, and we told Captain King what we were there for, and he said, he assured us that Oswald had not made any requests for counsel. And we went outside of the office and went downstairs, at least--I didn't, but two of the others, I believe, went downstairs to the basement where Justice of the Peace David Johnston was. He was the one that had held the I believe an arraignment, I believe is the right term, at 7:30 when the first charge of murder was filed against Oswald, and he also assured us that there had been an opportunity of-- Oswald's rights had been explained, and he had declined counsel. Said nothing beyond that. I think that was the extent of our inquiry." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Marguerite Oswald | WC Testimony"Yes, sir--the 22d, Friday, the 22d. I am worried because Lee hasn't had an attorney. And I am talking about that, and Mrs. Paine said, "Oh, don't worry about that. I am a member of the Civil Liberties Union, and Lee will have an attorney, I can assure you."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 10, 2023 20:21:21 GMT -5
Back to the Wall  4:35 PM Friday: Helen Markham, Howard Brennan
6:30 PM Friday: Callaway, Guinyard, McWatters
7:55 PM Friday: Virginia and Barbara Davis
2:15 PM Saturday: Whaley and ScogginsThere were 4 sets of line-ups with Lee, 3 were done on Friday, and 1 was done on Saturday. The Friday night showings were done with police officers as fill ins. The next day the lineups continued, using teenagers as fill-ins. Cab Driver, William Whaley, attended the 4th lineup. He testified, "...you could have picked [Oswald] out without identifying him by just listening to him because
he was baw'ling out the policemen, telling them it wasn't right to put him in line with these
teenagers...He showed no respect for the policemen, he told them what he thought about them...
they were trying to railroad him and he wanted his lawyer..." There are guidelines and procedures that need to be followed in the process of a lineup. DPD Jim Levealle was leading the witnesses, telling them outright, they think he shot the President, "We want to be sure, we want to try to wrap him up real tight on killing this officer."He had already picked Lee out to the witnesses. This officer should not even know which man was the suspect. They used fill-ins that did not resemble Oswald in, hair, size, dress, age or witness descriptions that were given. Witness after witness singled him out after being told he was the guy, with no other reasonable choice to make. Stand-ins were dressed in collared shirts, a red vest, a button down sweater and a suit jacket. DPD Elmer Boyd:Mr. BALL. Well, his clothes were a little rougher in character than the other three, weren't they?
Mr. BOYD. Well, could have been.
Mr. BALL. The other three were better dressed than Oswald, would you say?
Mr. BOYD. Well, yes, sir; I would say they probably were. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Early DismissalThe shooting of Officer Tippit happened very fast. There may have even been more than one man involved. Only a few of the 13 witnesses were close enough to have seen the actual shooting before the killer fled. These people were put in front of a series of lineups that were obviously stacked against Oswald. Had there been a trial, Defense attorneys would have requested a hearing to have the lineup evidence thrown out. The lack of proper procedure alone would have warranted the Judge to consider dismissing the testimony and statements.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 10, 2023 20:21:52 GMT -5
The Hosty Note James Hosty was the FBI agent assign to Lee Oswald in Oct of '62. It was common to monitor such a couple such as Lee & Marina. The agent took other immediate action, then in March of '63 he discovered Lee had a subscription to the communist newspaper "The Worker". He noted the file active and began his search for Lee. Meanwhile, Oswald had moved to New Orleans. Hosty claimed he could not find him. In New Orleans, Lee was working with a top FBI agent, Warren de Brueys. Orsett Pena from that town, had seen the 2 together at Anti Castro meetings. It is unthinkable that Hosty cannot find Lee at this time, but reasonable for the Dallas agent, to drop the subject as the responsibility of New Orleans, if Lee was on a special assignment there. Hosty worked with the Special Services Division of the Dallas Police Dept. Lt. Jack Revill was charge of that division. They were involved extreme radicals, such as "The Minutemen (extreme right wing group), Gen Edwin Walker. "I was a special agent and the majority of my cases at the Dallas office were domestic intelligence,
“Klansmen and Gen. Edwin Walker and his Minutemen. I had to keep an eye on the general and his crew."When Lee returned to Dallas in Oct. '63, he began attending anti Castro meetings. One such meeting was on Oct. 18th. Walker was there. Weisberg wrote that, Pena told him, de Brueys had gone to Dallas when Lee returned. A special assignment perhaps? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Notorious TacticsOswald, would have been working with FBI Agent James Hosty, in Dallas, when he returned from New Orleans/Mexico City. Hosty, claimed he never met Lee until 11/22, but had occasion to speak to his wife. Yet, his name, address and car license number are in Lee's address book. Marina & Marguerite both have said the two men knew each other. Lee, referenced a meeting he had with the agent and his wife, on Nov 1st, in a letter to the Soviet Embassy in DC About two weeks before the assassination, Oswald visited Hosty's office to either meet with him or drop off a note. Researcher Jim Marrs, spoke to the receptionist, Nancy Fenner, she told him Oswald asked to speak with "Special Agent James Hosty". When she told him the agent was not in, Oswald left a note. Fenner said the note was of a threatening nature, that he would blow up the Dallas Police Dept and the FBI building. Hosty said she misunderstood the message and it was something like: "If you have anything to learn about me, come talk to me directly. If you don't cease bothering my wife, I will take
appropriate action and report this to the proper authorities" I don't believe that. Because if that's all it was, there would be no need to destroy it. and how could she misunderstand so much of that. Perhaps the term was "blow up in your face". Right after the assassination, Hosty brought the note to his superior, Special Agent In Charge, Gordon Shanklin. Marrs wrote, Shanklin was visibly shaken and upset by the document. His boss held the note for a period of time. Once Lee was dead, Shanklin instructed the agent to destroy it. There would be no trial, and no longer any need for it. But, certainly a mere threat to the proper authorities wouldn't expect such reactions. I think, the note was some kind of warning. I think, it concerned the FBI Informant business Lee was doing, and it probably involved gun running. There was a sting operation led by ATF agents, and FBI Hosty, on the Monday before the assassination. They captured stolen military weapons. One of the prisoners, identified Lee Oswald as having made the deal with Jack Ruby in a hotel room the night before. Could this have been the warning? Could this have been the results from actions discussed at the Anti Castro meeting on Oct 18th? It had something to do with his FBI informant business, otherwise it wouldn't bother Shanklin so much. Something called "an internal problem" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Crossfire | Jim Marrs"Before the House subcommittee Shanklin, denied any knowledge of the Oswald note. But assistant FBI director, William Sullivan said, Shanklin had discussed an “ internal problem” concerning a message from Oswald with him and that the presence of the note was common knowledge at FBI headquarters." "It seems unbelievable, however, that the FBI would knowingly destroy evidence, especially if it would have proven Oswald prone to violence. Some researchers say a more plausible explanation is that Oswald, as an FBI informant, tried to warn the Bureau about the coming assassination. This could explain the receptionist’s insistence that the note contained threatening words. It also could explain why the FBI was so concerned and fearful of the note that it was ordered destroyed."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 10, 2023 20:22:23 GMT -5
Take two Search Sometime after 2 o'clock, on November 22nd, Capt. Fritz, told 2 detectives to get a search warrant and go out to the Paine residence, and to pick Oswald up. This was moments after Lee was brought in. Sgt. Gerald Hill recalled: "...He walked up to Rose and Stovall and made the statement to them, 'Go get a search warrant and go out to some address on Fifth Street,' and I don't recall the actual street number, in Irving, and 'pick up a man named Lee Oswald'. And I asked the Captain why he wanted him, and he said, 'Well, he was employed down at the Book Depository and he had not been present for a roll call of the employees.' And we said, 'Captain, we will save you a trip, or words to that effect, Because there he sits.' And with that, we relinquished our prisoner to the homicide and robbery bureau, to Captain Fritz." About 78 employees at TSBD, Fritz already knew which one. The property is in the town of Irving. Dallas Police, had no jurisdiction there. Rose & Stoval had to wait 30 min. for deputies. When they knocked on the door, Mrs. Paine answered, she consented to the search, and remarked, 'she had been expecting them'. Stovall was honest with the owner, that he did not have a warrant, Paine allowed the search anyway, waiving Marina's legal rights. Once deputies arrived, they were the ones that should have done the search. Stoval made it clear in his testimony, that only he and Rose conducted the walk thru. Then, Stoval heard Mrs. Paine say to Rose: "that Marina suggested that he look out into the garage..."Whatever was taken, was brought back to DPD and the Inventory Statement reads: "...the above property was recovered
from 2515 5th Ave., Irving by detectives G F Rose, R S Stovall, and J P Adamcik, all the property has been
initialized and marked for evidence by Stovall and Rose." Not a word about the required Dallas County Sheriff's involvement. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Back Yard Cut OutsThere are 3 " Backyard Photographs", that allegedly show Lee Oswald, holding "the rifle" at his residence on Neely St in Dallas. Discrepancies of the content in each picture is a story for another day. What is interesting is the Dallas Police involvement in how these pictures came about. In 1964, the Commission only had two of these pictures, and only one of the negatives. When Marina Oswald, testified in Feb. 1964, she said, she only took one photo. That picture, was strategically leaked to the press early on, and ended up being the cover of LIFE Magazine, Feb. 21, 1964. When DPD Stovall was conducting his search on 11/23, he found 2 negatives and photographs. They became 133A-B. Then, the negative for 133B was lost. The Dallas Police, could not deny they were inventoried, and Det. Stovall insisted on the stand, "Yes; I found two negatives..."The next photo to appear was a wider shot of 133A, that was found in Feb. 1967, by a friend of the Oswalds, Jeanne de Mohrenschildt. She was married to George de Mohrenschildt, whom Wikipedia describes as: "...an American petroleum geologist, anti-communist political refugee, professor, and occasional CIA field agent." The de Mohrenschildts befriended the Oswalds in the Summer of '62. The picture was signed on the back; "To my friend George from Lee Oswald" and the date "5/IV/63" (April 5, 1963), along with the words "Copyright Geo de M" and a Russian phrase translated as "'Hunter after fascists, ha-ha-ha!!!"The photo was handed over to the HSCA in April 1977, two weeks after her husband committed suicide, and never got to testify. It is a first generation print, with higher detail and resolution, and developed on professional equipment. It was labeled 133-A DEM. The last one in the most interesting. It was found in the belongings of former DPD Roscoe White, by his wife, Mrs Geneva Dees. White was already dead when she handed the photo over to the HSCA in Dec.1976. It has a different pose and was labeled 133-C Dees. This picture was used as a guide when DPD Bobby Brown and FBI Forrest Sorrells went out to the Neely St. house and took some "photos". In 1992, this was the cut out pose that was found in the Dallas Police files. The original negative was never recovered. An excellant analysis of the Back Yard Photos, by Jeff Carter @ Kennedys and King can be found here. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ THE JFK ASSASSINATION CHRONOLOGY compiled by Ira David Wood III"1992 -- The Houston Post notes that a mysterious matted version of a Lee Harvey Oswald backyard photo is found in the Dallas archives. Oswald does NOT appear in the print. In his place is a white silhouette of a human figure holding an apparent rifle and newspapers. The silhouette (clearly Oswald’s) is an example of matting, a darkroom technique that normally serves as an intermediate step in the combining of photographic images. It is this type of darkroom manipulation that has long been postulated by some photo analysts as the probable means of attempting to frame Oswald by “inserting” his incriminating image into a backyard background. The silhouette is obviously designed to accommodate only the Oswald pose in the backyard photo cataloged as CE 133-C. It was this same 133-C pose that was withheld from Warren Commission investigators, surfacing only in the mid-1970s, when the former Geneva White presented the print, obtained from her late husband, Roscoe White, to the HSCA. However, the 133-C photo was indeed known to the FBI, Secret Service, and Dallas police within days of the assassination. Shortly after this news article, a former Dallas police detective, Bobby G. Brown, admitted his direct involvement in the staging and darkroom manipulation of the unusual photo. Brown did not deny that the matting was intended to accommodate a cutout of Oswald’s image - to allow, that is, the insertion of Oswald into an empty backyard. He insisted, however, that the darkroom manipulation had an innocent purpose."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 10, 2023 20:23:04 GMT -5
Inside Connections  Looking back at the evidence on this thread, it is easy to see a pattern of behavior against the accused. The time of the Tippit shooting has been in dispute since 1964. The official record indicates it happening at 1:15p. Oswald was supposedly wandering aimlessly around the neighborhood of Oak Cliff with his pockets filled with bullets. There is no explanation of where he is going or why. The dispute in the time, comes from several witnesses. Three people in the immediate area put the murder before 1:10p. That would not be enough time for Oswald to get there. Official documents that report the time of death, have been doctored by the Dallas Police and the FBI. The four different pages are the DPD Homicide Report, Pronouncement of Death, and FBI report from the funeral home. Look again, and see a coordinated effort by the DPD, and the FBI, to change their relative reports to read 1:15p or later. Meanwhile, back at the sixth floor, DPD Studebaker, admitted there were no pictures taken before any boxes were moved. The 'nest' was created by the police, because there is no way to confirm the proper configuration of boxes before they arrived. A large bag, that was supposed to contain the rifle when Lee walked in that morning, does not exist in any DPD photographs. The HSCA did a comparison study of the Powell and Dillard photographs of the 6th floor window, and found evidence of boxes having been moved between the time these pictures were taken. Based on this evidence, and statements from a nearby witness, the committee concluded, there was movement in the 'sniper's nest' between 2-5 minutes of the shooting. Before police arrived. "This report accords with the finding that boxes were being moved in the sniper's window within two
minutes of the assassination; it also agrees with the eyewitness account of a law clerk from a nearby
building who said she saw a man in the sixth-floor window about four to five minutes after the shots were fired.
The law clerk was a woman named Lillian Mooneyham. She told the FBI that she saw a man standing a few feet back
from the sniper's window four to five minutes after the shooting."Suddenly, there was this bag made at TSBD. Where did the container come from? Lt. Day, marked it. No proof it belonged to Lee. There is no reason to believe that rifle was ever broken down and put in that bag. A well oil gun with exposed parts left no trace in the bag. The bulk of the rifle in the bag left no crease or markings. "There were no marks on this bag
that I could say were caused by that rifle or any other rifle or any other given instrument." FBI James Cadigan.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NeverthelessFrazier never identified CE142 as the bag he saw that morning. His sister said the same thing. It was "entirely" too long. Lee said he carried a lunch. The first 11 officers, and one photographer, never saw the bag laid out on the floor. The fingerprints on the bag are a partial thumb, and partial palm. They are not together. They are not consistent with the way Oswald carried the bag, and not enough if he made the bag. Although, he could have touched it during interrogations. The Police said they found five .38 caliber bullets in Oswald's pockets. That was more than two hours after Lee was arrested. Only his wallet had been found when he was searched in the car. Another wallet was found at the Tippit scene, said to have been handed to an officer by an unknown witness. It contained the ID of 'Alek Hidell". That was the name used to buy the rifle. When these items were combined at the station, with the wallet in Lee's pocket, he became the killer of the cop and the president. They denied Oswald an attorney while putting him through a series of prejudiced lineups. The men used in the showings were police officers that had nothing to do with the witness descriptions. Some were blonde, much heavier than Lee, with collared shirts, button down sweaters, vests, and a suit jacket. While Oswald, only sometimes wore his over shirt, complained profusely about the clothing and lack of legal council. He was beat up, cuts above his eye, bruises on his face, the others were neat and well groomed, not meant to be chosen. DPD broke every rule in the book. Witnesses were told going in, "...we want to try to wrap him up real tight on
killing this officer. We think he is the same one that shot the President." While fill-ins did not match their descriptions. From the time Oswald was arrested, until the time he was walked to his execution on Sunday, he repeatedly asked for an attorney. 44 hours. He never got one. He first requested a NY attorney named, John Abt. On Saturday, that lawyer said he could not take the case. Nobody told Lee. His second choice was someone from the ACLU. When the Dallas Chapter tried to visit him in the jail, he was sent away. With an attorney present, he would not have been put thru the prejudice & bias lineups, along with a more accurate interrogation record. The evidence of a note that was dropped of at the FBI office and the denial of the contents, even its existence, stinks of Lee having some relation with the FBI. Agent James Hosty was involved with the Special Services of DPD, and worked along side in Intelligence related to General Edwin Walker, and his extreme right wing armament the "Minute Men". A gun sting, gone wrong before the assassination, may also give more evidence that Oswald was an FBI informant, involved in some kind of gun running operation, possibly from TSBD. Michael Paine told the PBS news show, "Frontline", Lee had shown him a copy of a backyard photo as early as April 1963. He also said he was shown another picture by the DPD on the night of the assassination. Yet, the photos were not found until 11/23. Two film developers in the Dallas area, Robert and Patricia Hester said they saw some of them developed for the FBI on 11/22. There is something here strongly connecting Oswald to the DPD/FBI. Both agencies seem to already be well aware of the prints. Special Services dept of the Dallas Police, working with the FBI, could have "Intelligence assignments', that might utilize such procedures. Oswald mentioned his knowledge of photography and said that in time, he would be able to show the involvement of DPD in this deception. He also mentions, one picture,"reduced from the larger", this describes a picture found almost four years later, 133A DEM vs. 133A. "That picture is not mine, but the face is mine. The picture has been made by superimposing my face.
The other part of the picture is not me at all, and I have never seen this picture before. I understand photography real well,
and that, in time, I will be able to show you that is not my picture and that it has been made by someone else...
It was entirely possible that the Police Dept. has superimposed this part of the photograph over the body of someone else...
The Dallas Police were the culprits...The small picture was reduced from the larger one, made by some persons unknown to me..."It is, his inability to secure an attorney, evidence planted on his person, time of death documents altered, boxes moved in the SN. A wallet, with the name that bought the rifle combined with his own, a bag fabricated and never seen by the first 11 officers at the scene. Completely unfair lineups using officers as fill ins wearing, suit jackets and collared shirts. All clear indicators, they framed the accused. Beyond that, there is also strong evidence, Lee already had some previous relationship with both DPD and FBI before the assassination.
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