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Post by Paul Ernst on Sept 14, 2019 21:00:03 GMT -5
I have studied those drawings and compare them with all the pictures the DPD made of the sniper's nest. How in the world they accepted these drawings and nobody complains about them. You better not read his testemony and compare it with his drawings! Yes indeed form bad to worse!    |
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Post by Paul Ernst on Sept 15, 2019 8:04:29 GMT -5
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Post by Paul Ernst on Sept 15, 2019 8:50:03 GMT -5
What did they want to achieve with these drawings? A totall other scenario, something like this? Window completely open? No boxes for the windows and in front of the shooter? A completely different set-up with boxes to get a free line of sight? Another position from the shooter to make 3 shots fit? Or was it just incompetent work from a just starting detective with basic skills without support from his colleagues?    |
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Post by David Josephs on Sept 25, 2019 17:03:08 GMT -5
I have studied those drawings and compare them with all the pictures the DPD made of the sniper's nest. How in the world they accepted these drawings and nobody complains about them. You better not read his testemony and compare it with his drawings! Yes indeed form bad to worse! Hey there Paul... Have you considered this is what the boxes actually looked like when Day and Studebaker arrive? B.G. Brown - wasn't he the guy in the 133-C recreation photo? (btw-Brown tells us the Secret Service advised him on how to stand...) Despite what they seem to be lying about, Studebaker gives himself away with the comment about his Exh A where he says that left side of the "nest" was closed....there was no opening there making impossible for a rifle to be used from there... he also testifies that there were boxes on the window sill and he photographed them...!! Mr. BELIN. All right. I notice boxes throughout the picture, including the box in the window. To the best of your knowledge, had any of those boxes been moved prior to the time the picture, Exhibit 715, was taken?
Mr. DAY. No, sir; they had not.
www.maryferrell.org/archive/docs/001/1134/images/img_1134_525_200.jpg CE715 shows 1 window box and 3 rather than 2 stacks of books in front of the window AND 1 stack is 5 books high, not 4 Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
(Instrument referred to marked by the reporter as Studebaker Exhibit A," for identification.) mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/studea.jpg
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir; now, on this negative right down here in the bottom corner of this negative, there is another hull - you can just barely see the tip of it right here, and when this picture was printed, the exposure of the printing left this out, but I have one - I didn't know this was like that, but I have another one that shows this hull this way.
You see these boxes all right stacked up here, and you couldn't get over here to take another picture in that way, without getting up on everything and messing everything up. This is exact before anything was ever moved or picked up. There are just two different views there. You probably got one or two recopies We printed a bunch of them.
Mr. BALL. Were there any boxes on the ledge of this window?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you take some pictures showing those boxes?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Have you had some experience in operating a camera?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. How much?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Well, on this certain camera?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. STUDEBAKER. About 2 months.
Mr. BALL. But you have had photography in your crime lab work?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. For how long?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Was about 2 months.
Mr. BALL. How long have you done photography altogether?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. In my lifetime?
Mr. BALL. No, as one of the assistants in the crime lab, what period of years?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. 2 months. I went to the crime lab in October, the 1st of October. |
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Post by Tom Sorensen on Sept 26, 2019 6:13:29 GMT -5
This is another one "within a few hours...", even a five-year old can see something is wrong!
In exhibit 716 (not shown) we also see the single box on the floor just west of the window and in the photo above the barrier does not match the drawing and the box count is wrong although Studebaker's initial raw sketch shows it as three boxes wide. However, the wide base of the barrier is not reflected in the drawing.
David is right in suggesting the drawing may be correct and the photos show a more impressive "re-engineered" barrier although Studebaker dated his drawing 11-25-63 and "NOT TO SCALE" despite having all the measurements(!)
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Post by Paul Ernst on Sept 26, 2019 8:10:06 GMT -5
Hi Daivid and Tom, Good work.
The drawing was made on 11-25-1963!
Many photo's from the snipers nest were made on 11-23-1963.
How is it possible that a drawing shows so many deviations two days later with the photos taken on 11-23-1963?
And why hasn't the Warren Commission asked questions about this?
How is it possible that there are 4 or 5 different formats of 1 Snipers nest?
Why has this not been rejected?
Cheers, Paul.
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Post by Tom Sorensen on Sept 26, 2019 12:40:33 GMT -5
This one shows a two column barrier like the one on the drawing and tilted box on sill but note the stacks along the east wall in front of the window. The boxes forming the bottom layer are flipped (note tape) and there should be a pile stacked six high that is missing...
It looks as if Studebaker's head was spinning when he did the ball pen sketch, numbers and text upside down....also did extensive lettering of the east wall boxes but for what reason? Must have had a plan but gave it up as he got increasingly confused about the whole thing.
IMO, it is what it is, Studebaker likely had the best intentions and got screwed. He was told to finished the sketch (but when?) maybe to make the "Day Crew" look somewhat professional but Day was already sliding down that slippery slope...that sketch couldn't save him!
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Post by Paul Ernst on Sept 26, 2019 16:49:39 GMT -5
So, .. so we have photos and drawings with 2,3 and 4 rows of boxes from east to west directly behind the windows.
They were clearly out of control from "above".
Studebaker had forgotten his fresh crime course so quickly.
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