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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 27, 2021 9:58:09 GMT -5
Clay Shaw Trial | Grand Jury Testimony JFK Boards, is proud to present, Clay Shaw Trial | Grand Jury Testimony. These transcripts have been available in a pdf format, and are now easily accessible on a platform for all to read. I have gone thru each of the available witnesses and set up a structure that is comprehensive and simple navigate. In transcribing these documents some minor grammatical, or punctual errors may have occurred in the process. We will go thru and make the corrections. Meanwhile, we welcome researchers to make best use of this material. It is a fascinating read that demonstrates the foundation Garrison needed to move this case to trial. There is absolutely no malpractice or unethical behavior on the part the DAs office in this matter. Jim Garrison offered and insisted on a preliminary hearing and invited the Defense to preview the evidence. It was confirmed to move forward by three judges, and that in turn, prompted these Grand Jury proceedings. There is evidence of US Military Bases being robbed for the Anti-Castro fight, involving David Ferrie & CIA. Witness tampering, not by the DA, but by Walter Sheridan, according to Red Strate, sent there to shut down Garrison. Attempted bribery, and threatening a Judge, were just two things going on involving "Red" & Ed Baldwin. Some discussion of Clay Shaw being Clay Bertrand, and the mysterious visitor with a briefcase in Shaw's office. Con man, Thomas Beckham, a good friend of Jack Martin, and worked for Guy Banister. He was caught in the headlights when asked about doing work for the CIA. He took the fifth in an obvious manner to avoid answering the question, and was later admonished for lying on the stand. Beckham later admitted to the HSCA that, he was involved with ex-CIA that framed Oswald. John Heindel, was a Marine who served with Oswald in Atsugi Japan, He was supposed to be the soldier that had spoken Russian with Lee during the morning 'muster'. WC Attorney Jenner, prepared an affidavit from Kerry Thornley, that it was the same guy. Athough, Thornley wasn't sure, he went along with it. It was a LIE! John Heindel never had spoken Russian in his life. William Gurvich was a former investigator with Garrison's office, he was to bring testimony against the entire investigation. Intimidation, bribery, falsifying evidence, even forcing witnesses to submit to a lie detector... "...dragging people in over and over to be questioned and cross examined and subjecting them to
lie detector tests against their will... Read what he said. He had two chances. He brought nothing. Throughout these pages is evidence of the pressures this Grand Jury went thru just to get the case heard. The frustration comes thru the transcripts as they listen to accusations of fraud and malpractice absent of any proof. A daily battle, while Garrison and the District Attorney's office have acted appropriately in every manner. Also, I made a "lead sheet" in this thread for preview, and there provided a link directly to that witness's transcript. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Transcripts By Date [clickable links]| Josephine Hug | Mar. 09, 1967 | Carlos Quiroga | May 24, 1967 | Zachary Strate Jr. | Aug. 09, 1967 | John Heindel | Oct. 05, 1967 | | Dean Andrews | Mar. 16, 1967 | Dean Andrews | June 28, 1967 | Edward Baldwin | Aug. 09, 1967 | John Heindel | Oct. 19, 1967 | | Tommie Clark | Mar. 16, 1967 | Eugene C. Davis | June 28, 1967 | Malcolm V. O'Hara | Aug. 09, 1967 | Burton Klein | Oct. 19, 1967
| | Fenner Sedgebeer | Mar. 16, 1967 | William Gurvich | June 28, 1967 | Steven R. Plotkin | Aug. 16, 1967 | William Dalzell | Nov. 02, 1967 | | Perry Russo | Mar. 22, 1967 | Peggy Landry | June 28, 1967 | Rancier Ehlinger | Aug. 16, 1967 | Steven Plotkin | Nov. 02, 1967 | | Perry Russo | Mar. 27, 1967 | Nester Landry | June 28, 1967 | Byron Chivekton | Aug. 16. 1967 | James Hicks | Jan 11, 1968 | | Layton Martens | Mar. 29, 1967 | William Monaghan | June 28, 1967 | Josephine Hug | Aug. 23, 1967 | Kerry Thornley | Feb 08, 1968 | | Rancier Ehlinger | Apr. 05, 1967 | Ed Planer | June 28, 1967 | Jasper Hug | Aug. 23, 1967 | Marina Oswald Porter | Feb. 08, 1968 | | Harold Weisberg | Apr. 28, 1967 | John Cancler | July 12, 1967 | Goldie Moore | Aug. 23, 1967 | Thomas Beckham | Feb. 15, 1968 | | Mark Lane | May 10, 1967 | William Gurvich | July 12, 1967 | Miguel Torres | Aug. 23, 1967 | Ruth Hyde Paine | April 18, 1968 | | Raymond Marcus | May 11, 1967 | William Turner | July 12, 1967 | Miguel Torres | Aug. 31, 1967 | F. Lee Crisman | Nov. 21, 1968 | | Regis Kennedy | May 17, 1967 | Ross Yockey | July 12, 1967 | Hugh Anderson | Aug. 31, 1967 | Arthur Bidderson | Jan. 09, 1969 |
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 27, 2021 9:59:32 GMT -5
Josephine Hug | March 09, 1967  Josephine Hug worked as a secretary at the International Trade Mart in New Orleans, from 1959-1962. She was an executive secretary. At first she was hired to work in the "pool" with the other girls on the first floor. In 1960, she moved to an office just outside of her boss for a more direct contact with her day to day responsibilities. "...My immediate superior was Mr. Jessie Cort, Public Relations Director..." Thus, being in such close proximity to Shaw, she could see any visitors he had, as well as sometimes announcing the guest. After seeing David Ferrie's picture in the paper, she thought it possible this was a man that would come to the Clay Shaw's office. He made about 12 visits, she could remember, and when she talked to Asst DA Burnes, she thought the man wore a wig. About 5 days later she happened to mention this resemblance to friends at a restaurant, Three days after that, she changed her story. She testified to the Grand Jury on March 09, 1967, Ferrie died Feb 22 ndJosephine talked about the man she saw at a dinner party, after the meeting with the DA, and before she testified. Once on the stand, she back-peddled on all she told Barnes that previous Saturday, and claimed to not remember what was said. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Grand Jury TestimonyQ. Now, did you discuss with Dr. Nix David Ferrie and Clay Shaw? A. Yes, I discussed David Ferrie with Dr. Nix. Q. Did you tell Dr, Nix that David Ferrie had entered Clay Shaw's office on several occasions? And that you had observed this? A. Yes. Q. Did you tell him that you thought David Ferrie had entered Clay Shaw's office on occasion and you had observed this? A. I don't recall. Q. Do you recall, or did you discuss at any time with Dr. Nix the presence of Dave Ferrie, or a person you believed to be Dave Ferrie in Clay Shaw's office in the International Trade Mart? A. Not to my knowledge.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Oct 27, 2021 10:02:57 GMT -5
Dean Andrews | March 16, 1967  Dean Adams Andrews, Jr. was the jive-talking attorney who told the FBI and the Warren Commission that he'd been asked by a "Clay Bertrand" to represent Lee Oswald in Dallas. He described "Bertrand" as a "swinging cat" who occasionally guaranteed fees for some of his homosexual clients. Two weeks after the assassination, he told the FBI it had all been a "figment of his imagination". He was in the hospital that week for pneumonia, and was heavily sedated. He told the same story to the Commission. Andrews appeared before the Grand Jury twice, his first time was, March 16, 1967. He talked about how he first met Oswald, and had a difficult time remembering what he told the Commission vs. what he told the DAs Office. He did not answer questions unless he can see what he had already answered to the Commission. He made contradictory statements throughout. When he was through, he signed a waiver of immunity, stating he would be subject to perjury in the event of giving false statements. On June 28, 1967, he was called back, and identified Clay Bertrand as Eugene Davis. Davis came in later and denied ever using that pseudonym. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Grand Jury Testimony A. I get the impression you all want me to identify Clay Shaw as Clay Bertrand -- I'll be honest with you, that is the impression I get -- Q. Well? A. And I can't. I can't say he is and I can't say he ain't. Q. You can't say he is and you can't say he ain't? A. Right. Q. And that is what you told us in our office? A. Right, and that is what I am telling you now. I cannot say positively, under oath, that he is Clay Bertrand or he is not. Even with me listening to the guy's voice on the phone, the voice I recall is somewhat similar to this cat's voice, but his voice has overtones just like Moo Moo said, the voice I recall on the phone as Clay Bertrand is a deep, cultured, well educated voice -- he don't [sic] talk like me; he used the King's English. Everybody thinks I am holding something back... they think I have the key to who killed Kennedy -- I wish I did; I'd sell it and make a million dollars.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jun 9, 2023 17:26:25 GMT -5
Fenner Sedgebeer Fenner Sedgebeer was a New Orleans Private Investigator hired by the Garrison team to check out a kid named Tommie Clark. Clark was arrested for stealing a car, some credit cards, and vagrancy. The kid's case was handled by Attorney Dean Andrews. Sedgebeer testified regarding his arrest to the Grand Jury on March 16, 1967. By then, the most serious charges had been dropped. Clark was arrested on Feb. 05 th, Ferrie died on the 22 nd. Andrews told the Grand Jury, he did not remember the name. The kid was paroled the next day, the charges for auto theft were dropped. Sedgebeer did not find out who dropped the charges or paid the $250 bail. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dean Andrews | Grand Jury TestimonyQ. You never paroled anyone for David Ferrie? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. Do you know Tommie Clark? A. No. Don't recall ever meeting anybody by that name. Q. Thomas Clark? A. No, can't recall. No present recollection. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tommie Clark | Gran Jury TestimonyQ. How did you have occasion to be released from jail when you were arrested? A. I called up Dave. Q. Dave Ferrie? A. Yes sir. Q. Is that the person you worked for? A. Yes sir. Q. And what happened? A. I just told him where I was at, and he asked me what was I charged with and he said sit tight and I'll have you out. And he got me out. Q. Did you see Dave Ferrie after that? A. Yes sir. Q. Did he tell you how you got released? A. Yes sir. Q. How? A. Dean Andrews.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jun 9, 2023 19:58:38 GMT -5
Perry Russo Perry Raymond Russo, was an insurance salesman from Baton Rouge, that knew David Ferrie in the summer before the assassination. In Sept. '63, he was at a party with some friends that included David, and his friends, Clem Bertrand, and Leon Oswald. After the party had broken up, there were just a few people left, including Bertrand & Ferrie. The discussion turned to JFK. Suddenly, David became very animated and steered the topic to assassination and the possibility of killing the president. He talked about a multi shooter team with one used as a distraction and a scapegoat, while real gunmen strike from the front. Russo testified to the Grand Jury twice, once on March 22 nd, and again March 27 th, 1967. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Grand Jury TestimonyQ. Is there any doubt in your mind that this picture you identified of Shaw -- that the guy you identified at Nashville Wharf and the guy you saw in the apartment plotting to kill Kennedy, and the guy you saw in the service station talking to Ferrie, and the guy you identified when you were with Sciambra, who came to the door at 1313 Dauphine, is all one and the same guy? A. Yes, you don't forget his face. I am absolutely sure of that, Mr. Dymond and nobody else can shake me in that -- I told Mr. Garrison the other day, even if they get a guy who looks exactly like him, the man has a certain personality, he has a certain nature about him, he always dressed good, and he talks a certain way, and nobody can fool me that much. They might fool me, but they won't fool me that much -- I am sure it's the same man. Q. And you knew him as Clem Bertrand? A. Yes. Q. It was the only way you knew him, as Clem Bertrand? A. Yes. Q. It was not until Andy told you in the DA's office that his name was Clay Shaw? A. First time I ever heard that. That name. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Perry Russo | March 27, 1967 Perry returned to the Grand Jury about a week later. The members asked, why he had not told anyone about this before? He replied, "Anybody who would do a thing like that might kill anybody who asked about it. And I was getting ready for
law school and I just wasn't interested in Ferrie anymore. Call it lack of interest or whatever." Right after his testimony on the 22 nd, Edward Wegmann, a lawyer for Clay Shaw, contacted him for a meeting. Russo was seen on the same floor as Wegmann's office and Garrison was very concerned about what they had talked about. Jim left a stern warning, he would not be charged as an accessory, but there will be charges for any further type of this behavior, or change of story. "There will be no such charges emanating from the Orleans Parish district attorney's office, so you don't have to be afraid --
if you don't change your story. In that case, the charge would not be accessory, it would be perjury."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jun 9, 2023 20:00:11 GMT -5
Layton Martens A friend of David Ferrie. He testified before the Grand Jury on March 29,1967. He admitted knowing Ferrie from the Civil Air Patrol, and was an associate of Sergio Arcacha Smith. Smith was the head of the New Orleans chapter of the "The Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front" based out of 544 Camp St. New Orleans. These were CIA backed operations, later confirmed by the HSCA. In the summer of '61, Martens took a ride with Archia-Smith, David Ferrie and some others, to pick up guns and explosives, somewhere near the airport. At one point there was an explosive thrown from the car. He was never clear where they got them from, or delivered them to. Yet it is a confirmation Ferrie was dealing with Archia-Smith in CIA Cuban rebel operations. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Grand Jury TestimonyJuror: "Let me make a statement, Mr. Martens. You must think these men are stupid. If I were in a car - and it happened 50 years ago, I would remember every person in the car with me, where it happened, I would know where I had the stuff in it, I would know everything else. You must think we are a bunch of kooks to sit down and let you tell us that. This is ridiculous. That you don't know what caused an explosion and you are telling an intelligent group of people like this that you don't remember who was in the car, where you were going, where you were sitting, what you did - you must think we are really kooks to sit down and tell us that. To sit down and lie to us like that does not make sense."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jun 10, 2023 9:17:14 GMT -5
Rancier Ehlinger | April 05, 1967 Sometime in late August, 1961, The Schlumbuger Wells Company of Houma, Louisiana, was robbed of an arms cache and munitions. Involved in this late night raid were, David Ferrie, Sergio Aracha Smith, Rancier Blaise Ehlinger, Carlos Quiroga, Layton Martins, Luis Rabel Nunez, Gordon Novel and others. The goods were taken to Ferrie's apartment, then probably moved for later usage. On the ride back, there was an explosive thrown from one of the vehicles, which was discussed by all parties that testified in these proceedings. Rancier Ehlinger was a participant. Garrison assistant, Bill Gurvich, asked him to contact the DAs office. He testified to the Grand Jury on, April 05, 1967. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Grand Jury TestimonyQ. How did the people in the truck, without saying what the conversation was, was there a conversation between the people in the truck and the people in the car as to where they were going or how they were going there? A. You mean prior to our leaving Metairie? Q. Yes. A, There was conversations between all involved. Q. In other words, all knew the purpose of the trip? A. Yes. Q. No one was blind as to the trip? A. No.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jun 10, 2023 16:52:25 GMT -5
Harold Weisberg Harold Weisberg was a Senate Investigator from Maryland, most famous for his criticism of the Warren Commission record. Starting in 1965, his "Whitewash" series, and other self published books, led the way for JFK assassination research. In 1967, he went to New Orleans to help out the Garrison case against Shaw. Weisberg testified to the Grand Jury on, April 28, 1967 On the stand he discusses "Lovelady in the Doorway", which even today, is not completely resolved based on the fibers and threads of the shirt. The Zapruder film, the Altgens photo, the Del-Tex Building, Havana Bar & Lounge, Orset Pena, Sylvia Odio, Warren deBrueys, the Cuban groups etc. Discussion of the amount of metal contained in C-399 and the documentation that there was more metal in the Governor then the bullet could carry. It is a fascinating read of continuous evidence that repudiates the official narrative from its own record. In doing so, destroys it from the inside out. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Grand Jury Testimony"Robert Shaw says there were more than 3 grains of metal that he saw alone, in the wrist. That is enough evidence right there to disqualify this bullet. Dr. Shires who was the only doctor in charge of Governor Connally's case so he is the one doctor in the case who has never been presented to the members of the Commission and I've got my own belief why. Dr. Shires said he read the x-rays of the Governor's chest and there is metal in it. So fragments. you've got more fragments. Now we have this one. Governor Connally was a witness, the doctors were witnesses and nobody asked how much metal was in the Governor's leg. I got the size - its the FBI report from the Commission's files and I got a Government chemist to tell me 3.25 grains. Any one of these things is enough to destroy the entire Report."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jun 10, 2023 16:53:41 GMT -5
Mark Lane Mark Lane was a New York attorney involved in the case since 1964. He was not allowed as Marguerite's Oswald's choice of lawyer. He testified 2x before the Commission, and brought out discrepancies of the type of rifle found, and other inconsistencies. He had written extensively about the assassination, including the first major bestseller in 1966, "Rush to Judgement". Lane testified to the Grand Jury On May 10, 1967. He talked about Lee Bowers, smoke in the trees, the area behind the wooden fence, Witness, Charles Brehn, Tippit witness, Domingo Benivades, and so many more discrepancies and contradictions that run throughout the report. He talked about multiple shooters from different directions, and a timing of about 6 seconds to complete the task. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Grand Jury Testimony "Tague called over Dallas Deputy Sheriff, I think Buddy Walters was his name, and pointed out where the mark in the curb was and I conducted a filmed interview with Tague as well when the shots were fired he was right near the underpass and he believed the shots came from behind the wooden fence. That was his statement So we have a bullet striking the President in the back, one in the front and at least one bullet striking Gov. Connally, who suffered many injuries and the Government said it was all done with one bullet. Perhaps they are right, in any event it was done by one bullet so we now have 4 bullets fired and one bullet struck the President from the front and drove a portion of his skull backward, that was the fatal bullet and drove his body to the rear and to the back as well. Now 5 bullets fired from two different directions, that is a minimum of 5, and a minimum of two different directions, of course preclude the possibility that Lee Harvey Oswald was the one assassin unless some very sophisticated weapon has been developed which allows one man to fire from two different positions at the same time, which seems very unlikely."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jun 10, 2023 16:54:16 GMT -5
Raymond Marcus Raymond Marcus was from Los Angeles CA., and worked for blacklisted screenwriter Bernard Gordon in the 50's - early '60s He read extensively about the Kennedy assassination in '63 and wrote his concerns directly to Earl Warren that December. Working with Mark Lane and Harold Weisberg, Marcus self published his criticism of the report in a paper called "The Bastard Bullet". Raymond Marcus testified before the Grand Jury on May 11, 1967. He primarily spoke about CE-399 "the Single Bullet". He focused on the one and only fully bullet recovered, broke down the shooting frame by frame with facts that are corroborated by more than one witness. One of the most interesting witnesses in these proceedings, that can simplify and communicate the 'Single Bullet Theory' in a manner easily understood. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Grand Jury Testimony"Governor Connally was hit in the back of the right arm pit, the bullet going at a downward angle and exited an inch and half below his right nipple, entered his wrist and smashed his wrist, then entered his leg, that is the Governor's version. I think it is probably correct, Mr. Connally's wounds. I think it unlikely though that one bullet caused all of his wounds, I am willing to concede that and won't argue it because if more than one bullet caused his wounds they were getting a little further away from the Commission's theory. But frame 232, shows Conally is seated in the car as I am now, and I want to get the position so you can see, his hand is elevated in this position, Kennedy has already been hit and the Commission's version says Connally has been hit by this time too, but Connally's wrist is totally out of position to take a bullet after it exited an inch and half below his right nipple and went on down. About 10 inches out of position to have done that. It is very clear, let's play the Devil's advocate and give the other side, the other version, every possible argument. OK. Someone might say how do you know he hasn't already been hit in his wrist and he could raise his hand, a sort of reflex action. Let's test that possibility."
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