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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 1, 2019 12:53:12 GMT -5
Marguerite OswaldFeb. 10, 1964 | Morning SessionMarguerite Oswald was the mother of Lee Harvey Oswald, and she had a lot to say. The trouble was, she had too much to say, and sometimes it came across very scrambled and jumbled. Though quite often in her testimony she said, "..the point I am trying to bring out..." or "...but here is the point...." Most of these were never considered, and some actually deserve a thread of their own. She needed someone to better organize her testimony, without that, her words were just lost to the wind. This poor woman had suspected her son had worked for the government as far back as 1960. She wrote to the State Dept. Now his name was being dragged thru the mud by the press and media, without any defense. She knew him well enough to know, he was probably in trouble over his head, and has good reason to suspect others around him were involved. No one would listen. There are five sessions over 3 days Feb 10-12, 1964. She insisted on three things when she testified, First, that she be granted an attorney for council. She asked for Mark Lane specifically, that was denied, She ended up with a lawyer chosen for her from the District of Columbia Bar Association, John Doyle. Second, her papers remain with her no matter what. If the WC wants copies of anything she has, she must remain in full view of all her papers at all times. Third, Lee be granted a legal council, to ask questions on his behalf, and dispute any false statements made by witnesses. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Council for my son."My son, Lee Harvey Oswald, was tried and convicted within a few hours time, without benefit of counsel. And so I am appealing to the Board that my son, Lee Harvey Oswald, be represented by counsel. I am being represented by counsel. My daughter-in-law Marina was represented by counsel. And I understand that all other witnesses will have the privilege of being represented by counsel." Had she been granted Mark Lane, she would have been more organized and clear in her timeline and context. When she spoke up the second time re: the WCs main focus was her son, Chief Justice Warren, promptly corrected her.Mrs. OSWALD. Now, Mr. Warren, you made a statement that you in no way--I cannot quote your words--intimidate me. But you did not include my son. My son is being accused of the murder of President Kennedy. And I think that my son should be considered in this. He is dead. But we can show cause that my son is not the assassin of President Kennedy. And so I would like my son--he is the main object of the Presidential Commission, is he not, sir? The CHAIRMAN. No, no, he is not, Mrs. Oswald. The purpose of this Commission is to determine what the facts are in the assassination of President Kennedy. There it is. Right there. The Chief Justice of the United States and the head of this commission, has told a bald-faced LIE. He knew it was not true. We know now, he knew it was not true. It was discussed in detail in Executive Session about two weeks before. It has been drafted in memos from General Council Rankin, under instructions of the Chief Justice. There is an outline fashioned as early as Jan 11th, detailing the investigation of Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone assassin.He absolutely was the main object of this commission.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 2, 2019 10:46:18 GMT -5
"Lee will have an attorney, I can assure you"Feb. 10, 1964 | Morning SessionMrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir--the 22d, Friday, the 22d. I am worried because Lee hasn't had an attorney. And I am talking about that, and Mrs. Paine said, "Oh, don't worry about that. ' I am a member of the Civil Liberties Union, and Lee will have an attorney, I can assure you." "About an hour later the telephone rang, and it was Mrs. Paine. ' She said, "Mrs. Oswald, Lee called and he was very upset because Marina was not with me, and he asked me to get a lawyer for him, a Mr. Abt. I would like to talk to Marina." So I put Marina on the telephone, and Marina said about two or three words. So when she got off the telephone, I said,--Now, Marina talks in Russian, gentlemen. I said, "Marina, Mrs. Paine told me that Lee called and you were not home at Mrs. Paine, and Lee tells Mrs. Paine to get a lawyer." Marina didn't answer. And I then sensed--well, now, why isn't she answering me? This is very peculiar. And there was no more said about that conversation." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Very peculiar indeed.When Lee called from the jail to try and reach Marina, Mrs. Paine told him she she did not know where she was, or how to reach her. The ACLU was Lee's second choice of attorney, here, Paine said she was a member, but took no action to help. AND, then she is talking to Marina on the telephone!
If Marina spoke only a few words in Russian, what is that? - confirming instructions?
Something Marguerite should not hear? And then will not answer, and ignores Marguerite's questions. I find this very disturbing.
A couple of times Marguerite mentions, the Russian friends. She says about 8-9 of them were interfering with the Oswalds day to day. Coddling Marina, saying she deserves better than what Lee can provide. Marguerite senses this as part of the conspiracy. She has reason to be suspicious of something this serous. Who are these so called friends? "Lee will have an attorney, I can assure you"And something Robert Oswald said, "I still do not know why or how, but Mr. and Mrs. Paine are somehow involved in this affair." Suddenly, Lee finds himself separated from his wife and abandoned by the group that nudged it along. The loner.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 2, 2019 10:46:43 GMT -5
She Spoke EnglishFeb. 10, 1964 | Morning SessionMr. RANKIN. What I would like to find out for the Commission, if we can, in regard to speaking English, did you think she [Marina] was able to talk English fluently, or did you think she was in the process of learning it? Mrs. OSWALD. She was in the process of learning. But she understood more than she could talk. And I have a letter from Lee stating that Marina also speaks and understands French, that she had learned at grammar school. and there was this timeShe knew--there was a picture with Gregory Peck. and she said. "Mama, I know Gregory Peck." And she was singing Santa Lucia. And here again in my stupidity, I said to Lee, "Lee, she knows English, she is singing Santa Lucia." He said, "Mother, that is an international song." and yet anotherWhile I was there--Marina is a pharmacist. I have a medical book, and Lee was saying that he was losing his hair, and how he had become bald, because of the cold weather in Texas. So I got the medical book, looking up baldness, and the treatment for baldness, and Marina came by and she read the prescriptions. So I said, "Lee, she reads English," and he said, "Mother, that is Latin, of course, that is universal." The last two read like a TV Sitcom, to keep the secret from my mother is the ruse. Seriously, It appears Marina's lack of English, is an act. Having been taught French in grade school, and plausibly some Latin would afford the basic understanding of where some words come from. She was a trained pharmacist, requiring a higher education, adding more to the probability of at least a broken English. Lee going along with this and making such quick, yet obvious excuses, indicates IMO, something more to their[his] purpose back in the US.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Something Lee said.Mrs. OSWALD. They stayed at Robert's approximately 2 or 3 weeks, sir. So then they came to live with me. While there, I said to Lee... I am ahead of my story. Lee and Marina had sent me wonderful gifts, and I have the gifts, from Russia. A box of tea, very fine tea, a Russian scarf, pure linen napkins, embroidered with my initial, a box of candy for Christmas that has a Russian Santa Claus on it. I said to Lee, "Lee, I want to know one thing. Why is it you decided to return back to the United States when you had a job in Russia, and as far as I know you seemed to be pretty well off, because of the gifts that you have sent me. And you are married to a Russian girl, and she would be better off in her homeland than here. I want to know." He said, "Mother, not even Marina knows why I have returned to the United States. And that is all the information I ever got out of my son. "Not even Marina knows why I have returned to the United States."
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Post by Michael Capasse on Nov 9, 2019 11:01:57 GMT -5
Marguerite OswaldFeb 10, 1964 | Afternoon Session Most of Marguerite's testimony in her second session, concerns being held at the Six Flags Inn for five days after the assassination. Before she got started she related a story about Marina and the rifle, she wanted to make clear, Marina knew Lee had a rifle. Marina knew there was a rifleMrs. OSWALD. On the way leaving, I remarked to Mr. Doyle that I had forgotten one very important factor in the story. I had in Mrs. Paine's home, when Marina closed the door, and I was in the room --before she showed me the picture she told me at the police station that they had showed her Lee's gun and asked her if that was Lee's gun, and she said she didn't know, that Lee had a gun, but she could not say whether that was Lee's gun or not. But that she knew that Lee had a gun. Mr. RANKIN. When was this? Mrs. OSWALD. This was in Mrs. Paine's home the night of November 22, when we came from the jail. She told me that she told the police. I am going to explain, because I don't want to be put in why I didn't say it. Mr. Mark Lane had hoped to come before the Commission, and he wanted to ask me two questions. He didn't say what the questions were. But I know the affidavit presented to the Warren Commission passed on that. And so that is why I had put that particular thing off my mind, thinking Mr. Lane would bring it up. But I immediately told Mr. Doyle when I left, that Mr. Lane not being here I should have made that statement. Was there something else I told you? Mr. DOYLE. No. I think that was the matter you had mentioned to me, ma'am. Mr. RANKIN. You mean the gun or the picture of the gun? Mrs. OSWALD. No--the gun The police showed Marina a gun--showed Marina a gun, and asked Marina if that was Lee's gun, because Marina had testified at the police station, she told me that Lee had a gun in Mrs. Paine's garage, and this was the gun that was presumably used to assassinate the President, that the police had--and showed it to Marina, and asked Marina if that was Lee's gun that was in the garage. She said she didn't know --that Lee had a gun in the garage, but she did not know whether that was the gun or not. Mr. RANKIN. Did you have any discussion with Marina about the gun after that? Mrs. OSWALD. No, sir--when she said that, that was it. Any comments--as I said before that was it. Marguerite makes it very clear Marina knew there was s rifle. She suspects both Marina and Mrs Paine as part of a plot to frame her son. Marina said in her affidavit that she had seen the wooden stock in the garage. Are the Paine's aware of this, a little more than 3 weeks earlier Mrs. Paine wrote on her calendar "Oct 23- LHO purchase of rifle".Is that when the rifle came into the house?Mr. JENNER - And how long after you returned to Texas did you notice that package in your garage? Mrs. PAINE - I said I thought it was late October perhaps. I wouldn't be at all certain about when I first noticed it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ State Dept PapersMrs. OSWALD. So the FBI agent took us to the Six Flags. I was never questioned by the Secret Service or the FBI at Six Flags. My son, in my presence, was questioned and taped, and Marina was continuously questioned and taped. But I have never been questioned. I had all the papers from the State Department, and all of my research from Lee's I say so-called defection. And I wanted them to have them. All the papers were at home. I told them I thought I could save a lot of manpower, while they were getting the original papers, because I know that each department in the State Department had a reference on Lee, and I had the whole thing condensed, and by them having my papers, they could get the picture. They were not interested in any papers I had. They were not interested. "each department in the State Department had a reference on Lee,"+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "...with a tape recorder going..."Mr. RANKIN. You don't think, then, that at that time there were questions and answers for about 28 pages taken from you? Mrs. OSWALD. From me no, sir. Definitely not. If they have that, what they have is my talking, like I said, when I saw on television. They said--they were showing Lee's gun. And I was not watching television-- I am getting snatches of it, and I said, "Now, how can they say, even though it is Lee's gun, that Lee shot the President. Even being his gun doesn't mean that he shot the President. Someone could have framed him." If they have 28 pages of that, they have me doing that kind of talking, and had the room bugged, or whatever you want to say. But no, sir, I did not sit and testify. I swear before God 10 times I never have. And that is the point that has bothered me. Even before Lee's defection no one came along to the house. I called Mr. John Fain in the FBI myself to make friends with him. If they have 20 pages of testimony--that is when they got it, my talking. They got it with a tape recorder going. But I did not, no, sir. 28 pages? - She was obviously under surveillance, and very difficult to contain. What is most disturbing, is some of what Marguerite is saying has already been brought to the WC for investigation. Yet sadly, it was not addressed. This woman has repeatedly told the world she suspects her son was an agent of the government. The Warren Commission investigation responded with complete disregard, while at the same time, had been made aware of this from other sources weeks before.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 12, 2020 14:02:49 GMT -5
Afternoon Session (continued)On the morning of Saturday Nov 23rd, The FBI took Marguerite, Marina, and Marina's two girls, June(2) and Rachel (newborn) to the Executive INN, in Dallas. Lee did not know where his wife was, and had no way of contacting her, or knowing what questions they are asking her. This is in violation of his constitutional rights. In the state of Texas the unity of marriage give the same set of constitutional rights, as one. They have no right to take her away from him, they have no right to ask her ANY questions without a family or joint attorney being present. Where is Mrs. Paine ACLU, promised Marguerite to help find an attorney?
Once Lee was killed on the 24th, the FBI moved them to The Inn at Six Flags, outside of Dallas. From this time until she testified Marina and the 2 girls remained in Secret Service "Protective Custody". The locations were moved from time to time, but she was essentially cut off from the outside, and denied any ability to give public interviews. As the country felt sympathy for this young immigrant mother, money started to pour in, when all was said and done, Marina had accumulated, a house in a great school district, a book deal with a movie option, a business manager, and separate PR man, and $350,000 (in today's money x 8) Marina was the first witness called on Feb. 3, 1964. Once she completed her first day of testimony, she was released from that custody. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "III. HISTORY OF THE SPOUSAL CRIME EXCEPTION IN TEXASSource: scholarship.law.tamu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1294&context=facscholarA. Spousal Immunity: 1856 to 1965 Texas had a spousal crime exception to the spousal privilege as early as 1856. Article 648 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, reenacted in 1879, 1895, 1911 and again in 1925 under new article designations, originally provided, "The husband and wife can in no case testify against each other, except in a criminal prosecution for an offense committed by one against the other; but they may, in all criminal prosecutions, be witnesses for each other." This rule of incompetency did not allow the wife to testify even voluntarily against her husband except in cases of spousal crime. The statute did, however, allow the state to compel the wife's testimony when a crime was committed by the husband against her." Marguerite stayed there until the 28th, at which point she felt unwanted and went home, she said in testifying it was the last time she had seen Marina She gives the account of not being allowed to say goodbye to Marina or the children.
Lee's mother brings an unusual dynamic to the process. The way she is allowed to ramble on, there is no other witness with this kind of freedom. The commission is very careful not to ask her questions that scope in further investigation. She claims to have files of papers, that can prove her case, or at the least raise doubts. She could have told more about these "Russian friends", but simply wasn't asked. A quick search of all her testimony, will find they dare NOT ask her anything about the name "Hosty" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 12, 2020 14:03:22 GMT -5
Objective MarinaThis had all been arranged, the objective was to get Marina, the FBI needed to have complete control over what she says or thinks. They didn't need Marguerite's consent, but they did need Robert's cooperation to keep Marguerite away from Marina. Robert's role in this doesn't mean he is in on any plot, Marguerite's overbearing personality was played against the situation. Marina must stay away from Marguerite. It would have been very different had Mark Lane gotten to either one sooner. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TestimonyMrs. OSWALD. This is the 28th. So the agent that was taking me home I'm sorry, but I'm very bad at names, and there were so many agents, it is awfully hard for me to remember it all. I told him that I wanted to tell Marina that I was going. He knocked on the door. The Russian interpreter from the State Department, Mr. Gopadze, came to the door, and the agent said, "Mrs. Oswald is going home and wants to tell Marina and the children goodbye". He said, "Well, we are interviewing her, and she is on tape. She will get in touch with you." So I never saw Marina after that time. Now, what worried me so was what did Marina think. What did Marina know of this, and what did she think? Did she think I deserted her? Did they think I left without telling her goodbye? This worried me very much. I could picture the girl. What did she think? I didn't even get to tell her goodbye. So I tried in vain to see Marina. I have called Mr. F. V. Sorrels over and over and over, and he has never told me that Marina did not want to see me. And this, gentlemen, I have proof of. He always said, "Well, Mrs. Oswald, I am not able to divulge where she is" and the regular push-around. He is not telling me plainly I am not going to see Marina, he is being very courteous to me, but not letting me see Marina--if I am making this plain. And I have publicly blasted that. Over and over I have tried unsuccessfully. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
WASHINGTON __, D.C. 1:39 p.m. November 29, 1963 MEMORANDUM FOR MR. TOLSON MR. BELMONT MR. MOHR MR. CONRAD MR. DE LOACH MR. EVANS MR. ROSEN MR. SULLIVAN(excerpt)…I advised the President that his wife had been very hostile, would not cooperate and speaks only Russian; that yesterday she said , if we could give assurance she would be allowed to remain in the country, she would cooperate; and that I told our agents to give that assurance and sent a Russian-speaking agent to Dallas last night to interview her. I said I do not know whether or not she has any information but we would learn what we could… Very truly yours,[signed J. E. H.] John Edgar Hoover Director———————————————- 11/29/63 phone call with President JohnsonLyndon B. Johnson: That there is no connection between he and Ruby that you can detect now. And whether he was connected with the Cuban operation with money, you’re trying to… J. Edgar Hoover: That’s what we’re trying to nail down now, because he was strongly pro-Castro, he was strongly anti-American, and he had been in correspondence, which we have, with the Soviet embassy here in Washington and with the American Civil Liberties Union and with this Committee for Fair Play to Cuba… None of those letters, however, dealt with any indication of violence or contemplated assassination. They were dealing with the matter of a visa for his wife to go back to Russia. Now there is one angle to this thing that I’m hopeful to get some word on today. This woman, his wife, had been very hostile. She would not cooperate, speaks… Russian only. She did say to us yesterday down there that if we could give her assurance that she would be allowed to remain in this country, she might cooperate. I told our agents down there to give her that assurance… and I sent a Russian-speaking agent into Dallas last night to interview her…. Whether she knows anything or talks anything, I, of course, don’t know and won’t know till –
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 14, 2020 10:58:04 GMT -5
Marguerite Oswald was a strong woman. She worked all her life to support herself, and her family. Often times with multiple jobs. She has no reason to compromise the truth. She has been the loudest voice for her son's innocence, and has done nothing wrong. She was assured by the Chief Justice of the United States that her son was not the subject of this investigation.
Yet, her telephone has been tapped, her conversations were recorded. Her mail has been held, and opened, and some probably stolen. Her family has been broken into pieces by the authorities she would hope to be her support. That authority has no interest in inquiring further into what she has to say, or consider what she has in her files that could raise any doubt.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Brainwashed Feb 10, 1964 | Afternoon Session
Mrs. OSWALD. The first time Marina ever made any statement or public appearance was approximately 2 weeks ago, or maybe not that long. She was on an exclusive television program, Channel 4 in Fort Worth, Tex., when she stated publicly that in her mind she thought that Lee shot President Kennedy.
What an awful thing for this 22-year-old foreign girl to think. She thinks in her mind. She doesn't know. But she thinks, gentlemen. That tape can be sent back to you. That was her quote. I watched every television program, and I took it down in black and white. "In my mind, I think Lee shot President Kennedy."
She doesn't know our American way of life. Lee Harvey Oswald will be the accused assassin of President Kennedy when this information is over with, believe me. She is a Russian girl, and maybe they do this in Russia.
But what I am going to say is that Marina Oswald was brainwashed by the Secret Service, who have kept her in seclusion for 8 weeks--8 weeks, gentlemen, with no one talking to Marina. Marina does not read English. Marina knows none of the facts from newspaper account. The only way Marina can get facts is through what the FBI and the Secret Service probably are telling her, or some of the facts that Marina has manufactured since. I am sorry, gentlemen, but this is a true story.
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Marguerite was an intelligent and articulate woman. The points she makes are clear, the overall structure is diffused and disorganized The commission members are very careful NOT to make further specific inquiries. They just let her go on with no intention of looking at her files, or even responding to her. Their silence is deafening. She had become the enemy.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 14, 2020 10:58:41 GMT -5
"There were checks and cash"Feb 10, 1964 | Afternoon SessionMr. RANKIN. Well, Marina had her own counsel at that time, she said. Mr. Thorne was her attorney. Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. Now, we will get to Mr. Thorne. When I first contacted Mr. Thorne I said, "Mr. Thorne, how is my daughter-in-law and grandchildren? And Mr. Thorne really apologized to me. He said, "Mrs. Oswald, they are fine. But I am unable to divulge their whereabouts." He volunteered the information to me. And I said, "Well, sir; I am not asking where they are"--because I had already-- by the time she got this attorney--by the time I had contacted him, we had been fighting this thing to see Marina. But he volunteered the information. He said, "Your daughter-in- law and grandchildren are fine, but I am not able to divulge their whereabouts." I said, "I am not asking about their whereabouts." I said that I had Lee's Marine book, which is a big, colorful book, the life of a Marine, that Lee had sent to me, and Lee's baby book; that I had had in my possession ever since he was a baby, that I gave to Marina and Lee when they returned to Russia, and my husband's gold pocket watch I had all those years I gave to Lee. So I asked Mr. Thorne about these things and he said he would inquire about it. I said, "Mr. Thorne, while I am on the phone I do want to bring something up. While I was at Six Flags, the day I left, the morning I left, is the first time that sympathy cards started coming in, and money. And these envelopes were addressed to Mrs. Marina Oswald and Marguerite Oswald, or Mrs. Marguerite Oswald and Marina, to both." The Secret Service started to open the envelopes, and there were checks and cash. Because of my prior story that they had pushed me aside, I said, "Now, my moneys that come in that says and mother' I definitely want my share." Believe me, gentlemen, I have never received 1 penny. Mr. RANKIN. What did he say about that? Mrs. OSWALD. They said yes--and my son was there when I said that--they said they would divide it. If it was a $10 bill and it said the mother of Lee and the wife, that I would get 5 and Marina would get 5. So when I talked to Mr. Thorne I said, "I want to tell you, Mr. Thorne, while I was at Six Flags, I know of moneys coming in, but I have never received a penny. But I want you to know that the 'Secret Service in my home, because they were in my home from the 28th until the 3d"--I believe it was-- Representative FORD. Third of what? Mrs. OSWALD. This would be December. Because this was the 28th of November--approximately the 3d. "The money that came into my home that way, 'Mrs. Marguerite Oswald and Marina Oswald' the Secret Service divided right then and there. If it was a $10 bill, I got 5 and they took 5 to give to Marina. Whether Marina ever got the money or not, I have no way of knowing. But the money in my home was divided and the share given to Marina. But I never did get the share from the Secret Service at this time. So 2 weeks later---- Mr. RANKIN. How much did that amount to, that was divided in your home? Mrs. OSWALD. Very little. My contributions up to now are just a little over $900--about $905. That is the money that has been given direct to me, the mother of Lee Harvey Oswald.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 14, 2020 10:59:09 GMT -5
"I received no mail"Feb 10, 1964 | Afternoon Session
Mrs. OSWALD. So about 3 weeks later--now, Mr. Lane comes in here. He has all of these documents and all of these dates and everything. I don't know about the dates. Mr. Thorne-- from Mr. Thorne's office and Mr. Martin I receive an envelope about this size with mail for me, Mrs. Marguerite Oswald--not "and Marina"--everyone open, gentlemen--opened, no cash, but checks, made out to Mrs. Marguerite Oswald, that nobody else of course could have any benefit from. This late date. And there were checks way in November, in the beginning of December, that were held all this time. But until I complained, then they decided to send them to me.
Mr. Lane has in his possession photostatic copies of my mail that has been opened by the Fort Worth Police. I had a tip from a reporter that my mail at the mayor's office and the Fort Worth Police and the chief of police was being photostatic copied. So I sent a telegram--and I have these things--you will have everything I have to each one, the same telegram, saying that any mail addressed to Mrs. Marguerite Oswald should be forwarded to her immediately-- to me immediately at 2220 Thomas Place. I received no mail. Three days later--I received no mail.
So I called Mr. Sorrels and told Mr. Sorrels about the tip that I had. And I knew it was a positive tip--I could feel sure this young man was giving me the right information. I had much information that the public knows, that they have helped me in this case, Mr. Rankin. So Mr. Sorrels sent Mr. Seals, I think his name was, a Secret Service man down and the chief of police gave Mr. Seals--we have this--my mail opened and photostatic copies. I can produce this evidence.
Now, what right--I am not an attorney--but we have a moral issue all through this that I am fighting for. If the mail went to the chief of police, Mrs. Marguerite Oswald, in care of the chief of police-- it well could be that they have the legal right to open such mail. But they do not have the moral right, because I was an international figure, and everybody knew my address. And the chief of police and everybody else knew my address. And that mail should have remained unopened. How much cash was taken out of those mails? I do not know. And I am not really saying there was. But there is quite a possibility that it was. Then I received another package from Mr. Thorne, and my mail was opened. I called Mr. Sorrels about that. He said he knew nothing about it. First I called Mr. Thorne and he said that is the way he got the mail.
So then I called Mr. Sorrels and he said he knew nothing about it. I said, "Mr. Sorrels, I'm getting awfully tired of this. Mr. Thorne doesn't know how my mail is being opened. He says that he got the mail from the Secret Service. And now you are telling me that you do not give the mail to Mr. Thorne. Where does my mail come from opened?" So nobody knows anything, the things that have happened to me.
My rights have been invaded continuously--continuously. Every newspaper clipping was taken out of my home. Three letters from Lee, from Russia. I offered all my information, as I explained over and over. to the Secret Service. And while in my home, I was showing them things--because I was proud of the things I have, and I think, gentlemen, when you see everything I have you will see a different picture of this boy.
There were three letters taken from my letters from Lee. And how I came to know that-- a New York reporter had offered-- he was going to write a story and had offered to buy three of my letters. I told him he could have his choice. And so he looked through the letters, and I looked through them with him, and I missed these three letters. These three letters would have been of importance to the Secret Service and to our government. But you must remember, I have offered over and over to give any information I have.
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Marguerite had a little money saved from an insurance policy. She had it all worked out and Marina agreed, they would put their lives back together as a family. Marina and the girls will live with "Mama", they could alternate working and watching the children. That all changed between Nov 27-28, when Marina was turned against her.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 16, 2020 15:50:25 GMT -5
"I told our agents to give that assurance.."Feb 10, 1964 | Afternoon Session] Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. I have to continue. While at Six Flags, Marina was given the red carpet treatment. Marina was Marina. And it was not that Marina is pretty and a young girl. Marina was under--what is the word--I won't say influence these two men were to see that Marina was Marina. I don't know how to say it. Are you getting the point? Let me see if I can say it better. Mr. RANKIN. You mean they were taking care of her, or were they doing more than that? Mrs. OSWALD. More than taking care of Marina. Mr. RANKIN. Well, now, describe what more. Mrs. OSWALD. All right, I will describe it for you. I am not quite satisfied with the way I said that. Let me get my thoughts together. I noticed that--and of course as I have testified, the way the man treated me and I was told he was a body guard for Mrs. Kennedy. We were at Six Flags on November 24th, at Lee's death, and on November 26th Marina and I--before November 26th-- Marina and I were very, very friendly, very loving, everything was "Mama"--"Mama has a big heart." And we planned to live together. I had an insurance policy that had expired on Lee. I was not able to keep up the premium. And I had $863. But however I had not looked at the policy for some years, and I was not quite sure that it was in force. But otherwise I had no money and no job. I had given up my job to come to the rescue. So I was very anxious to get home and get my papers and let them see the copies of everything I had, and to find out if I had my insurance policy, if it was in force, and also get some clothes. From the 24th until the 26th I lived in my uniform, gentlemen. I did not have any clothes at the Six Flags. Yet Robert Oswald was taken to his home a couple of times to get clothes. And when I wanted to go home and get clothes, they put me off. One time I broke down crying. I said, "I don't understand it. You won't do anything for me, yet you drove Robert all the way to Denton to get clothes." So the night of the 26th they took me home, and I got my papers. I found that my insurance policy was in force. So I said to Marina, "Marina, we all right. Mama has insurance policy, $800. You stay home with baby and mama work, or mama stay home with baby and you work, and at least we have a start." "Okay, Mama. I not want big house, Mama. I want small place." And this is the girl that has never had anything, and she only wanted small things. Fine.
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