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Post by Michael Capasse on Dec 31, 2018 14:20:02 GMT -5
Acquilla ClemonsAbout a 1/2 hour after the President was killed, a Dallas Police Officer, JD Tippit was shot near the corner of Tenth and Patton in a suburb of Dallas called Oak Cliff. Acquilla Clemons lived nearby.
On 22nd November, 1963, Clemons was sitting on the porch of the house she was employed, when Officer J. D. Tippit was killed.
Afterwards she claimed that there were two men involved in the attack on Tippit. She later testified in a television documentary that the gunman was a “short guy and kind of heavy”. The other man was tall and thin in khaki trousers and a white shirt. She also claimed that Dallas Police warned her not to repeat this story to others or “she might get hurt”.
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It begins with Mark Lane on a NYC Radio Show hosted by Barry Gray July 19, 1964 The Warren Commission is still in session.
LANE: We now have a statement, uh, from another witness to the, uh, Tippit killing. This is a witness who has been questioned at our request by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Months and months ago she was questioned. She is an eyewitness to the killing of Officer Tippit. To this day she has not been called before the Warren Commission to testify, and her statement is that she saw the killing of Tippit and two men were involved in the murder of Tippit, two men. One on each side of the street conversing with each other.
Tippit got out of the car and walked toward one, this man pulled out a revolver, shot that man and then both of these men, who had been conversing before the shooting, ran in opposite directions.
Thus far the Commission, which I assume must know of this testimony because we gave it to the FBI months ago and now we have given it to the Commission as well, the Commission has declined to call this eyewitness to the, this other eyewitness to the murder of Patrolman Tippit.
I have made no reference to this other eyewitness until this time. We wanted to make sure that our statements were secured from her in writing and by tape, etc., so there could be no question about that. We now have, uh, the statements secured in that fashion so I can’t –
GRAY: Do you have a statement here with you?
LANE: I am not in, uh, I do not have her permission at this time to release her statement but I hope that within the next two weeks I will be able to release her statement entirely.
GRAY: To whom was her first voluntary, uh, statement made?
GRAY: I’m, I’m talking about the FBI. Did she come forward shortly after November 22nd, and say I saw the killing of Officer Tippit? LANE: She stated this to Agents who came in that neighborhood and questioned her, yes.
GRAY: And, has, have they gone back to interview her, to interrogate her? LANE: Yes, they have questioned her on more than one occasion.
GRAY: And she has not been called by the Commission? LANE: She has not been called by the Commission.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Dec 31, 2018 14:20:23 GMT -5
Vincent Salandria had interviewed Mrs. Clemons on June 24th 1964, on behalf of Mark Lane’s investigation. Salandria later recalled her as being credible.
Around the same time George and Virginia Nash interviewing Tippit witnesses included Mrs. Clemons, and they thought it was probable she was “known to some investigative agency if not to the Commission itself.”
Though there is no FBI jurisdiction in this murder, on August 21,1964 there is correspondence concern between Hoover and the Commission that references the transcript of the Barry Gray Show just days before the report is released.
September 14, 1964 Honorable J. Lee Rankin General Counsel The President’s Commission 200 Maryland Avenue, Northeast Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Rankin: With my letter to you dated August 21, 1964 concerning the appearance of Mark Lane on the Barry Gray Radio Program in New York City, I furnished you a twenty-seven pages of transcript of this program. (memo from Hoover to Rankin includes radio transcript discussing Acquilla Clemons)
An Oct 64 FBI memo makes it clear there are enough witnesses to conclude it was Lee Oswald alone and the matter is closed.
“Over thirteen witnesses testified before the Commission concerning the Tippit murder. The evidence developed, while circumstantial, would still make it possible for any prudent jury to return a guilty verdict against Oswald, regardless of the alleged statements of [Mr. and Mrs. C. Frank Wright] and Clemmons.
The Wrights and Clemmons have yet to come forth to volunteer any information concerning this matter, and it is not that we felt we should interview them or inject ourselves into a strictly local murder case wherein our participation was limited to specific requests by the Commission.”
and the FBIs only participation in this murder is limited to specific requests by the Commission? Like Hoover’ s concern over the Mark Lane radio transcript? — is that all?
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Post by Michael Capasse on Dec 31, 2018 14:20:44 GMT -5
In Mid-July 1964 Shirley Martin traveled to Dallas and interviewed Mrs. Clemons.MARTIN: You are? May I speak to you a moment? … We’d like to talk to you about what you saw on Friday, November 22.CLEMONS: I (can’t). It’s been too long. MARTIN: Well, has anyone talked to you and told you not to talk to anyone? CLEMONS: Yes, they have. MARTIN: Is that the Dallas police? CLEMONS: Some of them.MARTIN: Who’s that? You mean the Dallas police? CLEMONS: Some of them. I don’t know. I don’t know one of them from the other.CLEMONS: Because, you know, some kind of policeman talked to me. You know I don’t know one from another.
MARTIN: Was it a plainclothesman? CLEMONS: No, he wasn’t plainclothes.MARTIN: He had a police officer’s uniform? CLEMONS: Had blue-looking clothes on. MARTIN: Cap? CLEMONS: Yes. CLEMONS: And I’m not supposed to be talking to anybody, because he said if I talked to anybody I might have to go to Washington… be gone so long…be taking pictures of me. [Mrs. Smotherman] just don’t want that.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I think this was the FBI when they were going around with photo ID lineups and questions in the neighborhood [again without jurisdiction, right?] but I don’t think AC knows the difference between FBI or Dallas DET. —she just knows a man came to her house and told her to keep her mouth shut.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MARTIN: Oh, I see. So, the police said you’d get a lot of publicity and you’d better not do it? CLEMONS: Yeah, I’d better not. CLEMONS: Might get killed on the way to work. See I live over there. MARTIN: Is that what the policeman said? CLEMONS: Yes. See they’ll kill people that know something about that. There’s liable to be a whole lot of them.MARTIN: Who? CLEMONS: There might be a whole lot of Oswalds and things. You know, you don’t know who you talk to, you just don’t know. MARTIN: You scare me… CLEMONS: You have to be careful. You get killed.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Dec 31, 2018 14:21:05 GMT -5
Mark Lane interviewed Mrs. Clemons on March 23, 1966 Lane: Did you testify before the Warren Commission about this? Clemons: I haven’t said anything to anyone.
Lane: Did anyone come to see you after murder of Officer Tippit? Clemons: Yes, he was a man, came, I don’t know what he was. He came to my house talked to me, but I don’t what he, looked like a policeman to me.
Lane: He did. Did he have a gun? Clemons: Yes, he wore a gun.
Lane: Mrs. Clemons, how long after Tippit was shot did this man with a gun come to visit you? Clemons: About two, about two days. It was about two days, said I might get hurt, someone might hurt me, if I would talk.
Lane : About what you saw? Clemons: What I saw. He just told me to, be best if I didn’t say anything because I might get hurt.
Lane: Now, when you heard the shots, and went out of the house, did you see a man with a gun? Clemons: Yes, I did.
Lane: What was he doing? Clemons: Oh he was reloading it, and I say he was reloading his gun.
Lane: And, how would you describe that man? Clemons: Well, he was kinda chunky. He was kinda heavy, wasn’t a very big man.
Lane: Was he tall or short? Clemons: He was kinda short guy.
Lane: Short and heavy. Clemons: Yes.
Lane: And was there any other man there? Clemons: Yes there was one on the other side of the street. All I know is he told him to go on.
Lane: Mrs. Clemons, the man who had the gun, did he make any motion at all to the other man across the street? Clemons: No more than told him to go on.
Lane: He waved his hand and said go on? Clemons: Yes, said go on.
Lane: And then what happened with the man with the gun? Clemons: He unloaded it and then reloaded it.
Lane: And what did the other man do? Clemons: The man kept going, straight down the street.
Lane: And then did they go in opposite directions? Clemons: Yes, they were, they weren’t together, they went this way [indicating opposite] from each other. The one done the shooting went this way, the other went straight down past the street, that way.
Lane: What was the man, the man who did not do the shooting, but the man who went in other direction from the man with the gun, what was he wearing, if you remember? Clemons: Well, as far as I can remember he had on, looked like light khakis and a white shirt.
Lane: And was he tall or short? Clemons: He was tall.
Lane: And was he heavy or thin? Clemons: He was thin.
Lane: But the one who did, the one who had the gun seconds after Tippit was shot, he was short and heavy? Clemons: Yes, he was short and kinda heavy.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Dec 31, 2018 14:21:24 GMT -5
This woman was a witness [however slight] to an event with which her story conflicts with the official narrative. The Warren Commission said they never heard of her – in fact she doesn’t exist – yet are able to provide some of her specific details on page 652 of their report: Speculation: Another witness is alleged to have stated that she saw two men involved in the shooting and that they ran off in opposite directions afterward. Conclusion: The only woman among the witnesses to the slaying of Tippit known to the Commission is Helen Markham. The FBI never interviewed any other woman who claimed to have seen the shooting and never received any information concerning the existence of such a witness. The Commission has no evidence that there was any witness to the slaying other than those identified in chapter IV. (page 652 WC Report)The documented transcript of the Barry Gray Radio Show sent to the FBI and the WC while they were still in session, and then by just mentioning this important witness' observation, proves the above to be an outright lie upon the American Public. This witness had something to say that was important, and it was silenced.
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Post by Arjan Hut on Dec 31, 2018 16:49:10 GMT -5
How old was Aquila Clemons at the time and whatever became of her? Very likely she isn't alive anymore. When I watched Mark Lane's film, I thought, this is one brave woman.
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jan 2, 2019 13:59:13 GMT -5
How old was Aquila Clemons at the time and whatever became of her? Very likely she isn't alive anymore. When I watched Mark Lane's film, I thought, this is one brave woman. Barry Ernest wrote the book "Girl on the Stairs" - about Victoria Adams - he goes into Tippit witnesses that are also ignored.
I hadn't read the book, although I'd like to and I have seen excerpts. - He might say something about it there.
And I thought he did, that AC had left the state shortly there after, and of course must have passed since, even as Barry wrote the book (2010)
Yes, brave in deed, Dallas TX 1963.
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