Post by Tom Sorensen on Apr 23, 2020 3:19:18 GMT -5
RUTH PAINE continued (March 19, 1964. 3H 36-37) | That letter, October 14
Mr. JENNER - There never was any discussion between you and, say, young Mr. Frazier or Mrs. Randle or anyone in the neighborhood as to where the place of employment is located?
Mrs. PAINE - No. It may be significant here to say, my letter to which I have already referred--
Mrs. PAINE - No. It may be significant here to say, my letter to which I have already referred--
Mr. JENNER - Commission Exhibit No.
Mrs. PAINE - 425, which says, "Lee Oswald is looking for work in Dallas," does not give a time of day.
Mrs. PAINE - 425, which says, "Lee Oswald is looking for work in Dallas," does not give a time of day.
Mr. JENNER - What is the date of that letter?
Mrs. PAINE - October 14, Monday.
Mr. JENNER - This is the letter to your mother?
Mrs. PAINE - [itemized for analysis]
Mrs. PAINE - [itemized for analysis]
- But I don't normally write letters any time except when the children are asleep, they sometimes nap but usually this is in the evening.
- If it were in the evening it means that he had gotten the suggestion as to a place to apply, but I didn't mention that.
- I only mentioned that he was looking and was discouraged.
- I bring this out simply to say that I had no real hopes that he would get a job at the School Book Depository.
BLUNDER ALERT -- only a 'Yes' was required to answer JENNER's question, hilarious! She's entering an argument against something that has not yet been stated or asked, now drawing attention to the fact that Oswald, finally getting a lucky break, partly thanks to her kicking in the door for him, receives no mention in her letter written the same day she is on the phone with Truly and Lee. Note that the whole first page of CE 425 is about Lee, in fact the very first sentence (as quoted by Ruth) is about Lee looking for work in Dallas. This tells me she had a strong urge to tell her mother about Lee and his continued unemployment; things suck! So, what's going on with that premature rant?
@1: She tries to establish the case for the letter being written in the evening although nobody claimed otherwise.
@2: Bizarre, it's evident the TSBD connection had been established at diner time so why is the writing now considered hypothetical?
@3: Sure, everyone can see this in the letter, since you mention it, so what's the point?
@4: The TSBD not being mentioned makes it equally plausible that nothing of what she claims took place on the 14th.
Staying with the chess theme she is now fully open to a 'back rank check mate'. Is this sheer panic or a misplaced attempt to show how clever she is? But JENNER seems to have expected something would come up with reference the this letter, weird.
Mr. JENNER - Did you hear from him then either on the 14th or 15th in respect to his effort to obtaining employment at the Texas School Depository?
Mrs. PAINE - He called immediately on Tuesday, the 15th, after he had been accepted and said he would start work the next day.
Oh boy, JENNER had her boxed in and lets her slip away. Utter failure. The correct move would have been:
Mr. JENNER - When did you post the letter to your mother?
Further, she explicitly states he would start work the next day which contradicts her claim two days later of the marking in her calendar, RE Lee starting work on the 15th, was initially a mistake having later been reconstructed and corrected to be the 16th.
Mr. JENNER - When you say immediately, what time of day was that?
Mrs. PAINE - Midmorning I would say, which was contrary to his usual practice of calling in the early evening.
Mrs. PAINE - Midmorning I would say, which was contrary to his usual practice of calling in the early evening.
Mr. JENNER - By the way, is the call from Dallas, Tex., to Irving a toll call?
Mr. JENNER - What is its cost, 10 cents?
Mrs. PAINE - I expect so.
Mrs. PAINE - No.
Mr. JENNER - What is its cost, 10 cents?
Mrs. PAINE - I expect so.
Mr. JENNER - Did you answer the phone on the occasion he called?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - What happened?
Mrs. PAINE - He asked for Marina.
Mrs. PAINE - He asked for Marina.
Mr. JENNER - He said nothing to you about his success?
Mrs. PAINE - No.
Mrs. PAINE - No.
Mr. JENNER - As soon as you answered he asked for Marina?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - Did he identify himself?
Mrs. PAINE - No; but I am certain he knew that I knew who he was.
Mrs. PAINE - No; but I am certain he knew that I knew who he was.
Mr. JENNER - You recognized his voice, did you?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - You called her to the phone. Did you hear her end of the conversation?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - What took place by way of-- of conversation?
Mrs. PAINE - She said, "Hurray, he has got a job." Immediately telling me as she still talked to the telephone that he had been accepted for work at the school book depository and thanks to me and she said, "We must thank Mrs. Randle."
Mrs. PAINE - She said, "Hurray, he has got a job." Immediately telling me as she still talked to the telephone that he had been accepted for work at the school book depository and thanks to me and she said, "We must thank Mrs. Randle."
Not likely as Marina testified she didn't recall any of Randle's possible names: Linnie Mae, Randle or Frazier.
SUMMARY: I'd say pure fabrication.