Post by Michael Capasse on Aug 17, 2019 17:28:13 GMT -5
Helen Markham Revisited
Helen Markham attended the first lineup on Friday afternoon (11/22). The fill ins were all police officers.
The men were asked a series of questions, the POs were allowed to give fictitious names and occupations.
Lee was forced to tell the truth. Some suspects in other lineups also gave their place of employment.
Conveniently, none of the POs remember what answers they gave, nor could they remember what was asked or answered by Lee.
It was broadcast and reported almost immediately that shots came from the Texas School Book Depository Building, where Oswald worked.
There is nothing to indicate Lee was not asked where he worked, yet the record is clear, others in the line ups were.
The men in charge of the lineup knew exactly who the suspect was, which is a violation of guidelines.
That aside, they should have at least supervise the fill ins to match the witness descriptions. They do not.
The other men were dressed noticeably better than the suspect. Sport coat, vest and button down sweater.
Lee was dressed in a white t-shirt, a torn over shirt, a cut over his eye, and swollen face.
Oswald obviously stood out in both his dress and appearance, two of the other men were taller or heavier, one was blond.
DPO Don Ables, as he was dressed on the day of the lineups
When Markham is brought in, she is completely distraught, over the top.
Detective L. C. Graves remembers, she was "quite hysterical" and "crying and upset" and there was even talk of her being sent to hospital.
Captain Fritz
"We were trying to get that show up as soon as we could because she was beginning to faint and getting sick. In fact I had to leave the office and carry some ammonia across the hall, they were about to send her to the hospital or something and we needed that identification real quickly, and she got to feeling all right after using this ammonia."
In a room full of DPD, FBI, and Secret Service, as soon as Lee is brought in, Markham starts crying.
None of the fill- ins remember any of this commotion, or the police officers that kept at her, "which one?" "WHICH ONE?" !!
She had to choose somebody.
The authorities certainly know who it would not be.
There is only one choice she can make. It's a yes or no, really.
The line up itself is useless. Is it him or not? That's all.
In testimony, Attorney Ball leads her by the hand to the number 2 like a Burns and Allen routine.
But that still has to rely back on the credibility and the fairness of these lineups.
They broke every guideline, and the WC accepted the lies that they didn't.
Helen Markham may be the only witness that saw the actual shooting.
But she gave 5 different descriptions to authorities at the time, and described a man heavier, with bushy hair.
Assistant Counsel Liebeler described her testimony as "contradictory and worthless."
In a 1964 public debate, Attorney David Ball referred to her as "utterly unreliable", "full of mistakes", and "an utter screwball."
Yet, Commission staff member Norman Redlich said, "The Commission wants to believe Mrs Markham and that's all there is to it."
WC members questioned the worth of this witness, I ask the reader to examine that in the context of improper line up procedures.
Helen Markham attended the first lineup on Friday afternoon (11/22). The fill ins were all police officers.
The men were asked a series of questions, the POs were allowed to give fictitious names and occupations.
Lee was forced to tell the truth. Some suspects in other lineups also gave their place of employment.
Conveniently, none of the POs remember what answers they gave, nor could they remember what was asked or answered by Lee.
It was broadcast and reported almost immediately that shots came from the Texas School Book Depository Building, where Oswald worked.
There is nothing to indicate Lee was not asked where he worked, yet the record is clear, others in the line ups were.
The men in charge of the lineup knew exactly who the suspect was, which is a violation of guidelines.
That aside, they should have at least supervise the fill ins to match the witness descriptions. They do not.
The other men were dressed noticeably better than the suspect. Sport coat, vest and button down sweater.
Lee was dressed in a white t-shirt, a torn over shirt, a cut over his eye, and swollen face.
Oswald obviously stood out in both his dress and appearance, two of the other men were taller or heavier, one was blond.
DPO Don Ables, as he was dressed on the day of the lineups
When Markham is brought in, she is completely distraught, over the top.
Detective L. C. Graves remembers, she was "quite hysterical" and "crying and upset" and there was even talk of her being sent to hospital.
Captain Fritz
"We were trying to get that show up as soon as we could because she was beginning to faint and getting sick. In fact I had to leave the office and carry some ammonia across the hall, they were about to send her to the hospital or something and we needed that identification real quickly, and she got to feeling all right after using this ammonia."
In a room full of DPD, FBI, and Secret Service, as soon as Lee is brought in, Markham starts crying.
None of the fill- ins remember any of this commotion, or the police officers that kept at her, "which one?" "WHICH ONE?" !!
She had to choose somebody.
The authorities certainly know who it would not be.
There is only one choice she can make. It's a yes or no, really.
The line up itself is useless. Is it him or not? That's all.
In testimony, Attorney Ball leads her by the hand to the number 2 like a Burns and Allen routine.
But that still has to rely back on the credibility and the fairness of these lineups.
They broke every guideline, and the WC accepted the lies that they didn't.
Helen Markham may be the only witness that saw the actual shooting.
But she gave 5 different descriptions to authorities at the time, and described a man heavier, with bushy hair.
Assistant Counsel Liebeler described her testimony as "contradictory and worthless."
In a 1964 public debate, Attorney David Ball referred to her as "utterly unreliable", "full of mistakes", and "an utter screwball."
Yet, Commission staff member Norman Redlich said, "The Commission wants to believe Mrs Markham and that's all there is to it."
WC members questioned the worth of this witness, I ask the reader to examine that in the context of improper line up procedures.