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Post by Paul Ernst on Feb 7, 2019 0:45:13 GMT -5
I do not see the logic of a standing shot.
First build a big snipersnest and then expose yourself above those boxes!
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Post by Paul Ernst on Feb 7, 2019 22:54:09 GMT -5
Thinking out of the box,...hi,hi.hi!!!
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Post by Michael Capasse on Feb 9, 2019 16:02:44 GMT -5
DeBunked !!! besides @ z160 - where's the car?
he has to shoot down - and the window is too low
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Post by Paul Ernst on Feb 10, 2019 1:24:50 GMT -5
He Mike!
Yes it is no options the standing shot. Even Howell in the re_simulation has to step more back. (First row of 4 boxes).
A angle of 35 Degrees downward is out of bound.Notice how far he has to stand back! Notice no boxes behind him!
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Post by Paul Ernst on Feb 15, 2019 10:24:10 GMT -5
Credits: Mr Robert Cutler. redraw by Paul Ernst.So where would a standing shooter take position?
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Post by Michael Capasse on Jun 19, 2019 18:13:40 GMT -5
Your Armpit To The Floor Or Your Foot Out the Door
Using the length of the Mannlicher-Carcano as reference, Figure 23 illustrates how cramped a gunman would actually have been; the rifle is at an angle of 45 degrees to the south wall of the TSBD, approximately the trajectory for a hit at Zapruder frame 313 when President Kennedy was struck in the head.
The sniper, could not have moved significantly to his left, i.e. to the south, because of vertical pipes near the edge of the brick wall... Source: The "Sniper's Nest": Incarnations And Implications / by Allan Eaglesham
In another article he writes: The distance from the left edge of the window to the wall to the left of the window is approximately 22 inches, perhaps it would be impossible, even for someone of Oswald's height and build, to crouch in that corner and accurately fire the 38-inch-long Carcano.
Without a substantial structure, such as stacked cartons of books, to provide mechanical support, perhaps it would be beyond dispute that it was impossible to accurately fire the Carcano. Source: The Sniper's Nest That Never Was / by Allan R.J. Eaglesham
Measurements Window Open 13 inches CE 1310
Window Width 36.32 inches CE 1310
How high window sill from ground 12 inches CE 1310
Height of large Rolling Reader box 18 inches WCR
Height of small Rolling Reader box 9 inches WCR
Distance to from the box to the pipe 8.54 inches "Sniper's Nest": Incarnations And Implications / Eaglesham
The following are WC angles from the window to the car 28 degree angle to rifle in window (frame 161) 24 degree angle to rifle in window (frame 185) 20 degree angle to rifle in window (frame 222) 15 degree angle to rifle in window (frame 313) CE 888
We also know the sniper must change positions in order ot make these 3 shots
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ronald Simmons Weapons evaluation expert, U.S. Army Weapons System Division
"...The target which was emplaced at 240 feet, as shown in Exhibit 583--we had rather an unusual coincidence with respect to this target. This involved the displacement of the weapon to a sufficient angle that the basic firing position of the man had to be changed. And because they knew time was very important, they made the movement very quickly.
...On the third target, the angle through which the weapon had to be moved to get to the third target from the second was relatively small, and there were only two rounds which did not hit the target at 270 feet. One of these rounds, by the way, was used in the sequence where the iron sight was employed."
So the distance from the armpit to the floor should then line up to the WC angles from the rifle to the car.
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Post by Paul Ernst on Jun 19, 2019 21:52:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the post. So the distance from the armpit to the floor should then line up to the WC angles from the rifle to the car. I doesn't Michael! Armpit to the floor = 30.9 Inch. That means sitting on the box ( acc. Frazier FBI) a elevation angle of approx. 7 Degrees down.
Ohter Data: ground level to window sill level 61 feet by Frazier and 68 Feet by Eisenberg. Distance to target 175 Feet. Cheers Paul.
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Post by Paul Ernst on Jun 20, 2019 7:17:11 GMT -5
Oswald's armpit to the floor measurements:
Standing shooting position: ~ 57 Inch. Kneeling shooting position: ~ 36 Inch. Sitting shooting position: ~ 31 Inch.
See also the posts about the moving boxes in the snipers nest on this forum.
BW Paul.
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Post by Paul Ernst on Jun 21, 2019 18:27:55 GMT -5
And there is more......Acc. Frazier from the FBI was Oswald sitting on a box to make those shots. Later on Mr. Holland was looking for a standing shooter (first shot) but it was simulated in a half snipers nest. There are various problems with the window settings (opening) and the boxes in the nest, (photographed by the DPD). Main...Problems: 1. The shootings positions, (standing, kneeling and sitting in a time frame given by the authorities!) 2. The ergonomics for a shooter vs his size! 3. The various opening of the window (see testimony's and photographs). 4. The huls/ cartridges test from Mr. Frazier FBI vs the shooting positions. 5. The space for the shooter in the snipers nest. Here a view other examples... keep in mind what I wrote above and what Michael posted before!!!!Greets Paul.
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Post by Paul Ernst on Jul 18, 2019 16:45:16 GMT -5
See how far he is away from the supporting boxes in front of him. See how high he is sitting.
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